[gremlin]

I have collected Russian rifles for some time now and finally broke down and got me a Nagant pistol to round out the "russian collection". I was looking for a shooter and not worried about collectible status for now. 1941 refurb. Shoots great and am very happy with it. Don't like the blonde center wood on the grip. I can match the color but not sure they left enough wood there to match the depth of the checkering on the sides. So I may end up making up some grips from some cherry I have laying around.

On to the questions I have. I read the sticky on the clockwork "dis" and "re" assembly which was very helpful. Have not tore it down yet so this may be a dumb question, but I would like to know how the cylinder is removed. SA is not too bad although a little heavy. DA is almost impossible to use and still keep on target, any tips? And lastly, any good/close fits for aftermarket leather open top holsters?

 

[jleiper]

Turn the the ejector rod ccw and pull it forward. Rotate the ejector rod carrier toward the right side of the revolver until the mark on the carrier lines up with the mark on the top of the barrel. The cylinder pivot pin can now be removed from the frame.
Open the loading gate and the cylider can be removed. Assembly is simply the reverse.
Joe

 

[gremlin]

Thanks jleiper, very simple, could almost be just as fast to remove to reload:laugh:
At anyrate I did a complete disassembly, clean and lube job today and action is a bit better. Can at least keep the DA shots on paper today. Might have to try the nut/bullet tweek on the spring. Great little revolver, could make a nice varminter, why didn't I get one before now?

 

[pivo eta khleb]

I have a replica (US) WW2 shoulder holster for the S&W model 10 victory revolver. My Nagant fits it like a glove. I would guess that a belt holster for the model 10 would fit it as well.

 

[gremlin]

Thanks for the heads up on a holster pivo eta khleb. Speaking of holsters, has anyone done any research on the markings on the Nagant holsters?

 

[ebodell]

Hey Gremlin,
I am not sure what holster you received with your Nagant but if it is like the ones shown the various $99 deals out there I believe it is a post WW2 holster that was not even intended for the Nagant when it (the holster) was made. I recall reading this somewhere. Maybe a much more experienced member can chime in.
They are neat revolvers though and I plan on getting a couple more. Ammo is a bit pricey however.
Erik

 

[gremlin]

Erik,
Not sure myself when the holster was made. I'll put up some pics. The ammo is a little pricey so I'm trying to shoot up a few factory boxes so I can reload and keep the cost down.
Johnny V

 

[jleiper]

The holster you show was made in the 1950s up to the 1970s and it was definitely made for the Nagant revolver. These were made for storage and would have been issued with the revolvers if the revolvers were ever issued.
Joe

 

[ebodell]

Joe,
Thanks for the correction. Truth be told I was kinda waiting for you to chime in as you seem to have quite a bit of knowledge about the Nagant.

Johnny V,
My holster is basically the same as yours but without the number of stamps that you have. Did you get the lanyard as well?

The one I have almost looks new. I paid the extra $5 for hand select and it was well worth it. These seem to be a real bargain at $99 (base price). Not sure why they are not more popular. Maybe the ammo discourages more people from buying them. They interesting and fun affordable guns however (in my opinion).

Erik

 

[ordnancerestorations]

Those holsters were made from 1955-1968.The circular stamp with anchor is "Made for Russian Federation of Soviet Union Northern Fleet".1960 is the date.


Dallas

 

[gremlin]

Thank you both for the insight on the holster, maybe if I wear my Naval Marine hat pin it will shoot even better

Erik, Yes I got the lanyard (solid leather strap kind not braided rope) with the gun as well as the cleaning rod and screwdriver. Also got a owners manual from centuryarms which basicly only tells you how to load and unload and all the manditory cautions. (only drink vodka while operating, don't look down the barrel while loaded, don't holler: "watch this!" while shooting etc.) I know I'm poking a little fun but why not some good useful information. I wish it had at least included a exploded view and a small chapter on tear down would have been nice. With all that said I plan now to look around for a few collectible ones.
JohnnyV

 

[jleiper]

Those holsters were made from 1955-1968.The circular stamp with anchor is "Made for Russian Federation of Soviet Union Northern Fleet".1960 is the date.

Dallas

I don't believe that to be entirely true. I have one dated 1951 and have seen them dated into the 1970s. The date on these is found in the narrow rectangle which has the OTK mark. The date on this one isn't legible.
As to the Northern Fleet mark, either an extreme number of these were manufactured for the fleet or it means something else. More than 50% seem to have the trident and СФ mark. I personally think it is likely a trademark of a supplier.
Joe

 

[ebodell]

Thank you both for the insight on the holster, maybe if I wear my Naval Marine hat pin it will shoot even better

Erik, Yes I got the lanyard (solid leather strap kind not braided rope) with the gun as well as the cleaning rod and screwdriver. Also got a owners manual from centuryarms which basicly only tells you how to load and unload and all the manditory cautions. (only drink vodka while operating, don't look down the barrel while loaded, don't holler: "watch this!" while shooting etc.) I know I'm poking a little fun but why not some good useful information. I wish it had at least included a exploded view and a small chapter on tear down would have been nice. With all that said I plan now to look around for a few collectible ones.
JohnnyV

I found the "owner's manual" to be lacking as well. It did not cover any disassembly. Fortunately I searched this forum and found some very good posts on stripping the pistol for cleaning. Your comments are right on the mark.
I have yet to shoot mine. I have been searching the local shows for ammo (to save on shipping) and have not had much luck as of yet.

 

[chicagorandy]

There are some very good videos on the revolver by the Nagantman on youtube

 

[ordnancerestorations]

My father inlaw is a retired Soviet and Russian Navy Commander he told me tens of thousands of these and also Tokarev holsters were made for his Soviet Northern Fleet.Nagants were for reserve while the Tokarev holsters were in service.The circular stamp says "Made for Russian Federation Soviet Northern Fleet".I go to the Russian Navy base at Sevastopol every year and my step son works for a Russsian admiral ,who speaks very good English,and he knows a lot about former Soviet Navy small issue arms.

Dallas

 

[cuate]

Wow ! Great to see you onboard the Nagant forum ! Your Russian connections and language will certainly be a plus to we who love these weapons but know little about them....I see that you are a Senior Member so you have been here a long time...That is wonderful, Thank You .

 

[jleiper]

My father inlaw is a retired Soviet and Russian Navy Commander he told me tens of thousands of these and also Tokarev holsters were made for his Soviet Northern Fleet.Nagants were for reserve while the Tokarev holsters were in service.The circular stamp says "Made for Russian Federation Soviet Northern Fleet".I go to the Russian Navy base at Sevastopol every year and my step son works for a Russsian admiral ,who speaks very good English,and he knows a lot about former Soviet Navy small issue arms.

Dallas

How do you get that from "РПФПР"? The words you use would be "РФССФ".
Additionally if these were for the Fleet, they would likely be dark colored. These come in every color. Sorry, I don't believe you to be correct.

This is a Soviet navy holster from the 1970s
Joe

 

[ordnancerestorations]

I know the people who were there in the days of the Soviet Navy and they had no reason to lie to me.I would beleive them more than someone who never served in the Soviet Navy.

Dallas

 

[jleiper]

I still don't think YOU are correct. The letters don't match up with what you are saying. Unless you can come up with the Russian to go with the letters, I'm not able to believe it.
BTW I was a Russian translator in the USAFSS in the late 60s early 70s.
Joe

 

[45autorim]

Hmmmm.....I don't have any marks on the two holsters that came with my 2 Nagants. What does that mean?