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I just bought a Model 418 in 6.35mm.
I don't know anything about these little pistols, but it caught my eye, so.......

The slide is dated 1943, and has the Fascist date XXI as well.
The slide and frame have matching serial number 645788.
The left rear frame has the Brescia proof.

The left rear of the barrel has a small PSF marking.
What does this stand for?

There is no number on the barrel.
Should it be numbered?

It came with a small brown unmarked leather military style holster, and from the interior indents, they have been together a long time.

I'll try to post some pics in the near future.
Regards, Ned
 

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Beretta .25ACP PSF proof

PSF: Polvere Senza Fumo == Smokeless Powder.
Proof mark of the Banco Nazionale di Prova, for commercial sale items.
Firearm tested to use smokeless ammunition. PSF still in use today as a proof marking on Italian Firearms.

Could have been applied post-WW II, for release to commercial sale.

As .25 calibre sidearms were definitely "Private Purchase" items, they had to be commercially Proofed.

photos please...nice find.

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Was the PSF mark in use during the war years for commercial guns?

I'm trying to determine if this gun is substantially correct as a 1943 piece.
If not, I only have a couple of days to return it without a hassle.
I'd hate to return it, as it is 95%, and very neat.

I'll try to post a few pics tomorrow.

Thanks for the input.
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Was the PSF mark in use during the war years for commercial guns?

I'm trying to determine if this gun is substantially correct as a 1943 piece.
If not, I only have a couple of days to return it without a hassle.
I'd hate to return it, as it is 95%, and very neat.

I'll try to post a few pics tomorrow.

Thanks for the input.
Regards, Ned
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Dan,
Great pic.
It answers my question.
With that resolved, looks like I'm going to keep this little pistol.
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I just noticed that the PSF mark on my pistol is different from the Model 34/35 shown by Dan.
Is the stamp on barrel ok for 1943? or is it post-war?
 

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PSF marks

PSF with a Crown is under the Kingdom of Italy (dissolved 1948); the Wreath and Star are from 1948 onwards.(Republic Proof)

So the barrel with the Star PSF was proofed after mid-1948; if it appears in a crown PSF marked frame, then it is a Rebarrel job (or gunshop replacement).

I am confusing Dan's Pix with yours, though. Dan's Gun is definitely a 1943 Proofed Gun for Private sale; your barrel proof markings are Post-mid 1948 (Star PSF); all depends what the frame proof is, to date the frame correctly (it may have been made in 1943, but not released for sale till after 1948....)

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Well, I guess that answers my question. It's a post war replacement.
I"ll be returning the pistol.

Thanks for the bad news.
But, at least I now know..

Regards, Ned
 
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