[dbalcher]

Guys, I am looking into the use of an arbor press to form rounds for some of my Mil-surps from common brass.

I know I can just but it from graff's but I am just looking for the fun in doing it my self and going into an area most others do not.

When I look at the some dies for example : http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=169574&t=11082005

Just to throw one out there. I see an Arbor press is needed.

I look one up and I see this: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=122107

I see the threads are not the same as regular dies.

Is it just as simple as having the dies thread to the press, lubing and pulling down on the lever really hard or am I missing something?

Would simply calling Forester, or RCBS be the best place to start? I was hoping there would be some one with knowledge here to help.

Thanks
Dale

 

[NORMSUTTON]

dbalcher

I don't think I'd go that rout I would buy this

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/6.5_Carcano.html

and then get one of these and expand the neck's with a punch so I could get a ball expander in and the full lenth resize the case
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=616039

or pull the bullets and fire form them

NORM

 

[Ordtech]

The arbor presses arenṫ threaded for the dies. The face is flat and they are primarily made to replace bushings and bearing races.
The brass you choose may extend out of the top of the die, hence the need for a spacer, pipe will work. Any brass that extends out is normally cut off with a saw and the case trimmed as part of making you cases. If your cases are short enough or die long enough, it wonṫ need the spacer.
I form 30-30 to 219 Wasp in a regular RCBS Rockchucker. The arbor press is really only needed if the base of the parent case is to be swaged down to a smaller size.
Carcano brass is available. Just resize 6.5 Carcano brass in regular full length dies.

 

[dbalcher]

Thanks guys. I do know the brass is available from graff. I am looking for some projects to keep me busy not that I am retired.

I am looking to make 6.5 Jap., and both Carcano rounds from. .270 winchester.

The base on a 6.5 Arisaka is 11.45mnm the .270 is 11.96mm.

The direction indicate the the base form dies needed must be used in an arbor press.

Same with the other rounds. If this can be done on the Rock Chucker why the Arbor press? .5mm is a lot when talking about this level of swaging.

 

[NORMSUTTON]

dbalcher

I think you should talk to Dave Corbin he makes press and dies

http://www.corbins.com/index.htm

NORM

 

[Ordtech]

It may be a lot easier in the arbor press. Sometimes resizing autoloader brass in a small base resizing die, like 7.62 or 30-06, is hard in a regular press. If you do not need the arbor, you're that much richer. If you have a regular press, lube the cases good and try it. If itś too much stress on the press or just hard to do, get the arbor. Just trying to save you some money.

 

[kywoodwrkrII]

Arbor Press

Many of the base forming dies and etc are not threaded like regular reloading dies.
In this case either a large vise, an arbor press or a hydralic press are sought out for use.
I have base forming die sets which take a 30-06 base size down to 7,62x39 or Japanese 6.5 base size in steps(4).
This set is not threaded.
I have other form die sets which use extended shellholders(no hole through them) and use a heavy press-RC or Lee cast. ie 8mm Nambu from 30 Remington.
In my opinion arbor presses are limited in use where as a hydralic press is more versatile in my opinion.
Harbor freight has some economical hydralic presses.
Footprint is much larger however. But I use them in my automotve endeavor also.
FWIW.
DaveP kywoodwrkr

 

[Ordtech]

Good point about the threadless dies and hydraulic press, kywoodwrkrII. The hydraulic press would take all the effort out of it. I have the six ton benchtop Harborfreight press. Itś an upside down bottle jack in an A-frame.
Thanks for the tip, I may give it try.

 

[dbalcher]

Very useful information guys. I'll take a look in each direction.

Thank you.

Dale

 

[BigJakeJ1s]

I wonder if you could use an unpiloted die blank in a Forster co-ax, and remove the shell holder assembly and use the press as an arbor press?

Andy