[tommac]

Hi
Got this in a trade deal from a friend today there is no date or ssn.There is parts missing on fram seem to work fine .There is a ssn on the clip and barrel nothing on the trigger or fram firering pin Was wondering a value and any information in general Many Thanks Tom

 

[Wewelsburg1123]

Looks like very late war.Really nice!! thanks for showing.
Jay

 

[Vicasoto]

Hi Tom :

Most likely this was picked up after the surrender from a factory and assembled with parts on hand. It is not complete missing the magazine retention spring at the bottom of the grip strap. Some of these have odd numbers stamped that are not Japanese marked, yours has apparently none.
Some collectors want to have at least one example of the post war assembled for souveniers. Value is whatever either party thinks it's worth, or just as a parts gun.
Vicasoto

 

[fredh]

Tommac, these are quite rare. You're as close to a 20.8 date as you're gonna get. The story given on mine, which I value highly, is that the vet was at the arsenal in line to get his souvenir, and the fellow behind the counter told him he looked like a person who needed a pistol. The vet was given mine, but when the fellow behind the desk went to record the serial number on the paperwork, he found none, so the pistol was sent back to be numbered. So mine has a screwy number on it.

 

[arisakadogs]

Only Yoda would consider this as a "parts gun"

 

[type-14]

You did REAL good with this one. Everything as one would expect to find on these, miss-matched and missing parts. Is the magazine safety block there? In most of these that is missing as well. What's amazing is that usually with a bit of fitting they work just fine.

 

[Rampage19]

Congratulations on your nice acquisition. I have record of 19 examples without numbers or date on the frame. There are additional examples like the one Fred mentions which have had miscellaneous numbers applied. My example is shown below along with an ever rarer T94 example.

 

[TGE]

Cool piece and nice to have as an example of a "put together" pistol from the occupation time period. These were probably all obtained at the arsenal as described by fredh. Some collectors believe that former arsenal workers put them together for the GIs. The one I acquired recently is similar to fredh's example with a bunch of numbers stamped on the frame.

- tge

 

[Ronin48]

Fram T-14s may be OK, but don't use Fram oil filters on your car, something bout them lacking a "bleed-back" valve? (de old debel made me do it!)

 

[tommac]

Thanks to all for the replys. Here is the holster it came in .My friend said he got it at a garage sale.Many Thanks Tom

 

[type-14]

Nice holster, IMHO not Japanese and looks post war made but still a nice holster made for a Type-14.

 

[fredh]

Cool piece and nice to have as an example of a "put together" pistol from the occupation time period. These were probably all obtained at the arsenal as described by fredh. Some collectors believe that former arsenal workers put them together for the GIs. The one I acquired recently is similar to fredh's example with a bunch of numbers stamped on the frame.

- tge

Another story I was told (can't remember now where I got it, but I think from a vet) was that arsenal employees were retained just to keep them employed and that they were busy assembling parts into pistols and rifles for our soldiers to take home as souvenirs.

 

[Francis C. Allan]

Great find indeed. I think Fred's memory has this situation down in a nutshell. Very cool. The final T-14 history chapter.

Frank

 

[tommac]

Hi guys
Does any one know of a value or what one has sold for presently Can email if dont want to post here [email protected] many thanks tom

 

[Irish Brigade]

Nice rig.THe holster to me is a typical GI souvenier holster or what I call a cigarette holster.Often GIs had these made and trade a pack of cigarettes for the holster.Have seen these often with P38s,Lugers,even made for the GI 45.I own a couple and most of the german made holsters show typical german style stitching,fasteners and buckles.

Hard to say if the holster came with the gun originally or if it was added by the previous owner after he got the pistol at the garage sale.At any rate its a period holster.

 

[type-14]

Here are 3 from my collection. The top one has no numbers, the second and third do have numbers stamped on them as Fred stated earlier.

 

[tommac]

Hi Type14
Very nice but ugly same with mine thanks tom

 

[type96]

Hi Tommac,
Seeing your nambu reminded me of one I have and showed here a couple of years ago.

 

[fredh]

Hi Tommac,
Seeing your nambu reminded me of one I have and showed here a couple of years ago.

Type96, my fugly ucker is shown on page 98 of MPOJ. This is more than coincidence, but my put-together serial number is 93356. Yours is 478356. Think the fellow just changed the initial digits in the stamping machine and maintained "356." Mine, like some others, has the "3-segment" recoil springs, i.e., each spring is a stack of 3 short springs to give the proper length. So, by the time mine was assembled, they'd run out of recoil springs. I picked this one up probably 30 years ago and just had to have it. Sometimes you don't know what you want til you see it.

 

[digger doug]

Here's my late undated type 14 that has been posted here in the past. The serial number falls into the 20.7 range. There are pictures and a description of it in both the old Derby book and the newer Derby-Brown book. Photos were taken by A-Dogs.

Doug