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More importantly he wants a Mosin to shoot. I have seen Mosins at Big 5 sports and such for 99$ but they all look... well like a 99$ large bore rifle. He has 200$ is birthday money burning a hole in hos wallet and I was wondering what could I expect for say 200$? Would it be safe to shoot? reliable? accurate? (after that comes pretty, historical etc- I have spent 15 years raising my kid dont want to put an unsafe gun in his hands now):)

The plus side for me is that if I get a Mosin for him to shoot- the ammo is all on him. the way he goes through my 303 ammo stash is scary. He isnt a bad shot either (he has 20/20, unlike his old man who is 20/30 corrected and 20/200 uncorrected.)
 

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Well, I myself am 17. I just bought my first Mosin yesterday but have shot them quite a few times and trust me, it is a very good investment. I love my Mosin.

The Mosin is a very safe, accurate, and fun shooter. It also hold a large bit of history in each rifle. The Mosin I picked up yesterday turned up to be used as a Russian Sniper Rifle in WWII. I wouldn't worry about your son affording the ammo cause the surplus ammo is quite cheap for 20 rounds, just look up good ways to clean them after shooting the surplus ammo because it is indeed corrosive.

But as for my vote, I say go for it. The Mosin is an excellent rifle to shoot and a good piece of history. Also, on the plus side, if you ever need any info on it, you can just come here : )
 

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Well, I myself am 17. I just bought my first Mosin yesterday but have shot them quite a few times and trust me, it is a very good investment. I love my Mosin.

The Mosin is a very safe, accurate, and fun shooter. It also hold a large bit of history in each rifle. The Mosin I picked up yesterday turned up to be used as a Russian Sniper Rifle in WWII. I wouldn't worry about your son affording the ammo cause the surplus ammo is quite cheap for 20 rounds, just look up good ways to clean them after shooting the surplus ammo because it is indeed corrosive.

But as for my vote, I say go for it. The Mosin is an excellent rifle to shoot and a good piece of history. Also, on the plus side, if you ever need any info on it, you can just come here : )

Your indeed a Jr member ;)
Thanks for your input- I was wondering specifically what to expect for a 200$ Mosin, online or perhaps in my area (Oregon).
 

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OK, get him a Mosin.... lets see $200.00 birthday cash on hand and Mosin rifles @ $99.00 each = how many Mosins? These rifles are a "best buy" for the quality and performance. Bear in mind that they are high powered rifles with high power recoil, if your son is a new shooter you may want to buy a .22 for educational purposes (that is what to tell your wife) and let your son get 2 for 1 with b'day money. You just can not go wrong with the purchase of these rifles; see if the store will let your son handpick his rifles as a birthday present !!!!!!! Lots of luck and Happy Birthday starkmojo jr.
 

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i already have a 22LF for him... but he likes the big guns (so to speak) he always asks to take my 303 SMLE out then complains how its been bubba-ized.

He wants a WW2 era, high powered rifle with all the furniture. and a sling. He is a WW2 NUT.

One of my friends recently said "my son is looking at porn on the internet"
I said- "All mine does is look at guns.. sometimes I wish he would look at some porn"
 

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I Have about 40 Different Mosin Nagant Rifles and have shot them all.. Never found safty to be an issue.. They can have some quirks like the sticky bolt sydrome but can usually be fixed with a little TLC.. They are my Favorite flavor.. I have a couple of 303 and a variety of Mauser but the Mosin is my Favorite of the bunch..
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First, have him browse the Mosin forum and learn a little bit about them. A little education can go a long way when it comes time to go shopping and knowing what you are looking for is half the fun!

Have him shoot a few ... Do you have a local range? Are there members with Mosins?
We have introduced many, many dad and son newcomers to the wonderful world of Mosin and are always eager to share and educate.
We never pass up an opportunity to introduce a young shooter to them. Look and ask and I'm sure someone will be happy to let you try theirs.
Beware ... one quickly becomes two and two multiply like rabbits! You may find a new common hobby ... collecting!

His preference may be a long 91/30 or a short M38. Often interesting to see which one the kids gravitate to. We have seen kids as young as twelve and shorter than a 91/30 blast away like a true Russian soldier. They are not put off by they blast and recoil ... but do get a slip on rubber shoulder pad or a PAST magnum shoulder pad so he does not get too beat up.

Any Mosin is a great "learning rifle" as it is too simple to screw it up no matter what you do to it. The ammo is the cheapest milsurp you can afford to buy and shoot in quantity, which you will, so be prepared to order it by the case! Once he gets addicted to "the big bang", there will be no slowing him down!
 

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The only difference between a $99 mosin at big five and a $200 elsewhere is jacked-up retail costs. Unless you are looking for a Finn or other original condition gun, most refurbs (best value out there) came from the same batches. Look for stamped matching numbers and an excellent bore. Then test how smooth the action seems (wholly subjective, but some of them are more stiff than others). Good luck and good hunting.
 

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Your son has good taste.

I probably bought 1/3 or more of my collection at Big 5.

Here is my opinion:

Be sure you take your son with you when you to check out the rifles.

Since you want a rifle that you will be shooting a bit, bore condition is a high priority. Keep in mind that the rifles may be stuffed with the soviet version of cosmoline, which may make checking bore condition difficult. Consider bringing a bore snake with you, and asking permission to run the bore snake through the barrel . I would not worry about whether the muzzle has been counterbored or not.

If your son has an interest in WWII history, then a 1942 or 1943 rough-machined 91/30 would let him hold a piece of war history. The crude machining on the outside of the receiver shows how desperate the soviets were at that time to produce weapons.

If one of the rifles "speaks" to your son, then let him get that one.

Use the money left over to buy a variety of ammunition, and find out which ammo works best in it.

Have a blast.
 

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A Mosin is a perfect WWII battle rifle, especially for someone new to collecting military equipment. Rugged, safe to shoot, very accurate in well-trained hands and absolutely...um...bullet proof. A 'hex' receivered rifle or 'ex-sniper' have slightly more historical interest than a regular round receiver example, but in the end they are all about the same. Also, 7.62x54 is a heck of a lot cheaper to shoot these days than any other full sized cartridge I can think of.

About the only other rifle I can think of in the price range quoted is a WWII era Turkish Mauser, but they aren't on the retail market now, and surplus 8mm ammo isn't as widely available as it once was either.

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Aw, come on, I was trying to get you a new .22, Dad needs birthday presents too !!!! Seriously, the $99.00 Mosins are perfectly fine and exactly the same rifle as the $200.00 Mosin. You will get anything from an issued rifle in good condition to a re-arsenaled rifle in fine condition. These are typical WW2 issue with a likely overhaul. Do try to talk the store into letting the boy pick his own if at all possible; he would probably love it. If possible look for the earlier octagonal reciever and a later round reciever; buy the pair and save a return trip. I was not joking about buying 2, as an investment it should be better than either the stock market or the ponies.

Just make sure he has cleaned the rifle properly before the first range trip !!!
 

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With $200, I would go:
A.) get 2 Mosins
B.) 1 Mosin, 800 rounds of 54r.
C.) 1 Mosin, hold onto the extra $100 for another milsurp.
I suggest B. I don't think you'd get 800 rounds for the second $100, but you can get 440. That would be an excellent start. Also as someone said, don't pay $200 for a refurb shooter. All you get for the extra $100, is ripped off.
 

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Your indeed a Jr member ;)
Thanks for your input- I was wondering specifically what to expect for a 200$ Mosin, online or perhaps in my area (Oregon).
Lol yea, I am indeed. I've been around firearms my whole life with my dad being in the military, and have always loved history. A Mosin is the perfect combination of the two :)

But, yes, as you can see the mosin is highly recommended ;)
 

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I Think what your doing is the right thing to do, if it gets them into history and shooting it was well worth the investment! I started #1 son about 10 years ago and he has already built a little collection maybe 10/15 guns in total including his first Mosin that I built from some real nice parts, #2 son has another built Mosin and maybe 4 other rifles and finally #3 is getting his Mosin next week sometime, but, won't be able to shoulder it for awhile (10 years old), but it gets him interested and gives him a little bragging rights. They don't have to shoot a lot but must be able to and safely trained, they don't have to collect but have opted in and last but not least they have to hunt, but, must know how! I figure it a right of passage and they can be able to fend for themselves in worst case scenario. I prey hard that I did my job, #1 son has opted to join the Army Infantry and has requested Afghanistan.-SDH
 

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The only difference between a $99 mosin at big five and a $200 elsewhere is jacked-up retail costs. Unless you are looking for a Finn or other original condition gun, most refurbs (best value out there) came from the same batches. Look for stamped matching numbers and an excellent bore. Then test how smooth the action seems (wholly subjective, but some of them are more stiff than others). Good luck and good hunting.
I agree. All $200 is probably going to buy you these days is an overpriced $99 rifle. Sort through a bunch of them to find the best one, and save the rest of the money or put it toward ammo. Time enough to go up the price scale when he learns what it's worth paying extra money for.
 

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If your son has an interest in WWII history, then a 1942 or 1943 rough-machined 91/30 would let him hold a piece of war history. The crude machining on the outside of the receiver shows how desperate the soviets were at that time to produce weapons.

If one of the rifles "speaks" to your son, then let him get that one.

Use the money left over to buy a variety of ammunition, and find out which ammo works best in it.

Have a blast.
I have one of those here. Definitely crude on the outside. Lathe marks and light pitting on the barrel too. Nothing wrong with the inside. This Mosin feeds, chambers and fires any kind of 7.62x54R ammo. We used everything from copper plated aluminum "VPT" surplus ammo, to a few rounds of 50s-60s vintage commercial "REM-UNC" softpoints which are stamped 7.62 Russian on the heads.

.303 ammo is expensive these days. Consider reloading. The same .311 diameter bullets and powders can be used to load both calibers...
 

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Mosin Nagants do tend to speak to you. You just have to listen carefully. They are fully multilingual. I wish time would roll back and take me to the purchase of my first Mosin. The 91/30 with some Russian writing on the reciever would be a great start.
I wish your son many more.
 
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