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When I was a kid, the saying was,"What's good for GM is good for America."

And so it goes.


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GM Likely to File for Bankruptcy, Report Says
Washingtom Post ^ | 12/17/2008

Posted on Wednesday, December 17,


General Motors is likely to file for bankruptcy protection with government backing, giving bondholders a recovery of more than 25 cents on the dollar, according to Moody's Investors Service.

There is a 70 percent probability that the restructuring plan for U.S. automakers will consist of a prepackaged bankruptcy financed by government loans to get GM and Chrysler through to 2009, Moody's said in a report dated Dec. 15. Under that scenario, bondholders would be likely to lose less than 75 percent of their investment, Moody's said..............."
 

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Sounds like the best outcome we could have hoped for - apart from no governemnt help at all, which wasn't going to happen.
 

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If the bondholders are going to be nicked, how much are the unions going to be nicked ??
 

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If the bondholders are going to be nicked, how much are the unions going to be nicked ??
No telling - but almost certainly not enough, nor as much as justice would dictate...
 

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Wikipedia
Pages in category "Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of the United States"
549 total. This list may sometimes be slightly out of date

1
1929 Graham Paige DC Phaeton
A
ABC (1906 automobile)
ABC (1922 automobile)
Abbott-Detroit
Able (1917 automobile)
Ace (1920 automobile)
Acme (automobile)
Adams-Farwell
Adelphia (automobile)
Adria (automobile)
Aero Car (1921 automobile)
Aerocar (1905 automobile)
Airscoot (1947)
Airway (automobile)
Ajax (1914 automobile)
Ajax (1921 automobile)
Ajax (American automobile)
Aland (automobile)
Albany (1907 Automobile)
Albatross (automobile)
Aldo (1910 Automobile)
Alena Steam Car
All-Steel
Allen (1913 Ohio automobile)
Allen (1913 Philadelphia automobile)
Allen Kingston
Allied (automobile)
Allstate (automobile)
Alpena (automobile)
Alsace (automobile)
Alter (automobile)
Altham (car)
Altman (automobile)
Aluminum (automobile)
Amalgamated (1917 automobile)
Amco
America (1911 New York automobile)
American (1899 automobile)
American (1902 automobile)
American (1911 automobile)
American (1914 automobile)
American (1916 automobile)
American (automobile)
American Austin Car Company
American Automobile and Power Company
American Chocolate
American Electric (1899 automobile)
American Electric (1913 automobile)
American Junior (automobile)
American Juvenile Electric
American Locomotive Company
American Mercedes (1904 automobile)
American Motor Car Company
American Motor Vehicle Company
American Motors
American Motors Incorporated
American Napier (automobile)
American Simplex
American Steam Car
American Steamer
American Tri-Car
American Underslung
American Waltham
Ames (automobile)
Anahuac (automobile)
Anchor Buggy
A cont.
Anderson (Carriage)
Anderson (automobile)
Anhut Motor Car Company
Ann Arbor (automobile)
Anna (1912 automobile)
Ansted
Ansted-Lexington
Apollo (1906 automobile)
Apollo (1962 automobile)
Apperson
Apple (automobile)
Ardsley (automobile)
Argo (automobile)
Argo Electric
Argonne (automobile)
Ariel (American automobile)
Armstrong Electric
Arrow (automobile)
Astra (1920 automobile)
Atlas (automobile)
Auburn Automobile
Aultman
Aurora (1957 automobile)
Austin Automobile Company
Auto Cub (1956)
Auto Red Bug
Autocar Company
Autoette
Autoette (1910 automobile)
Automatic (automobile company)
Avery Co.
B
Babcock Electric Carriage Company
Baker Motor Vehicle
Barley Motor Car Co.
Bates (automobile)
Bell Motor Car Company
Belmont (automobile)
Bendix (Automobile)
Benham (automobile)
Berg Automobile
Berwick (automobile)
Bi-Autogo (automobile)
Biddle Motor Car Company
Biesel
Bill Dovell Motor Car Company
Binghamton Electric
Binney & Burnham
Black (Automobile)
Black Crow (automobile)
Black Motor Company
Blakely Auto Works
Blood (automobile)
Bobbi-Kar
Bour-Davis
Brew-Hatcher
Brewster & Co.
Briggs-Detroiter
Briscoe
Brockway Motor Company
Brush Motor Car Company
Bryan Steam Car
Buckmobile
Buffalo (1901 automobile)
Buffalo Electric Vehicle Company
Buffum
Bush (1916 automobile)
C
CVI (automobile)
C cont.
Cannon (automobile)
Car de Luxe
Car-Nation
Carhartt (automobile)
Carter Twin-Engine
Cartercar
Cavac
Century (automobile)
Chalmers Automobile
Chandler Motor Car
Checker Motors Corporation
Church-Field
Citicar
Climber (automobile company)
Clénet Coachworks
Coates-Goshen
Coats Steam Car
Coey
Colonial (1920 automobile)
Colonial (1921 automobile)
Colonial (Shaw automobile)
Colt Runabout
Columbia Automobile Company
Columbia Motors
Continental automobile
Corbin (automobile)
Corbin Motors
Cord Automobile
Correja
Corwin Manufacturing Company
Courier (automobile)
Courier Car Co
Covert (automobile)
Coyote (automobile)
Crane & Breed
Crane-Simplex
Crawford Automobile
Crestmobile
Cricket (1914 automobile)
Crosley
Crosmobile
Crow-Elkhart (automobile company)
Crown (automobile)
Cunningham automobile
Cutting (automobile)
D
DAC (automobile)
Dagmar (automobile)
Dale (automobile)
George W. Davis Motor Car Company
Davis (automobile)
Davis Steam Car
Davis Totem
Day (automobile)
Dayton Electric
De La Vergne
De Luxe
De Mot
De Schaum
De Vaux
De Vaux Continental
DeSoto (automobile)
DeWitt Motor Company
Deal (automobile)
Gas-au-lec
Ahrens-Fox Fire Engine Company
Daniels Motor Company
D
Desberon
Detroit (Wheeler Manufacturing)
Detroit Auto Vehicle Company
Detroit Automobile Company
Detroit Cyclecar
Detroit Electric
Detroit Steam Motors Corporation
Detroit-Dearborn
Detroit-Oxford
Diamond T
Diana Motors Company
Dile
Dingfelder
Dixie Flyer (automobile)
Doble steam car
Dodge (cyclecar)
Dodgeson
Dolson
Dorris Motors Corporation
Dort (automobile)
Downing-Detroit
Dragon Automobile Company
Du Pont Motors
Dual-Ghia
Dudly Bug
Duesenberg
Durant (automobile)
Durant Motors
Duryea Motor Wagon
Duryea Motor Wagon Company
E
E-M-F Company
Eagle (automobile)
Earl (automobile)
Edsel
Eisenhuth Horseless Vehicle Company
Elcar
Eldredge (automobile)
Electric Vehicle
Electrobat
Elmore (automobile)
Empire (1901 automobile)
Empire (1910 automobile)
Empire Steam Car
Empire Steamer (automobile)
Endurance Steam Car
Engler (automobile)
Eshelman
Essex (automobile)
Etnyre
Eureka (1900 automobile)
Eureka (1907 automobile)
Everitt
Excel (automobile)
Excelsior-Henderson Motorcycle
Exner Revival Cars
F
Fal-Car
Faulkner-Blanchard
Fiberfab
Fiberfab Avenger GT
Fiberfab Valkyrie
Fina-Sport
Fischer (automobile)
Flint (automobile)
Flyer (automobile)
Franklin (automobile)
Frazer (automobile)
F cont.
Fredonia (automobile)
Friend (automobile)
Frontenac Motor Corporation
Fuller (automobile)
G
GJG
Gadabout (automobile)
Gaeth
Gardner (automobile)
Gaslight (automobile)
Gasmobile
Gaylord (automobile)
Gem (automobile)
Geo (automobile)
Glasspar G2
Glide (automobile company)
Globe Four
Graham-Paige
Grant (automobile)
Gray (automobile)
Gray Light Car
Great Eagle
Great Southern (automobile)
Greenleaf (automobile)
Grinnell (automobile)
Griswold (automobile)
Grout (automobile)
Gyroscope (automobile)
H
HAL (automobile)
HMV Freeway
Hackett (automobile)
Hammer (automobile)
Hammer-Sommer
Handley-Knight
Harrison (automobile)
Harroun
Harvard (automobile)
Hatfield Motor Vehicle Company
Havers (automobile)
Hawk (cyclecar)
Haynes Automobile Company
Haynes-Apperson
Heine-Velox
Henry (automobile)
Herff-Brooks Corporation
Herreshoff (automobile)
Hewitt-Lindstrom (automobile)
Hidley Steam Car
Hitchcock (automobile)
Hobbie Accessible
Hoffman (Cleveland automobile)
Hoffman (Detroit automobile)
Hol-Tan
Holley Motor Car
Hollier
Holsman Automobile Company
Hudson (steam automobile)
Hudson Motor Car Company
Huffman Bros. Motor Co
Hupmobile
Hupp-Yates
I
Imperial (automobile)
Imperial Automobile Company
Indian (motorcycle)
Inter-State (automobile)
International Automobile Company
International Automobile Construction Company
International Automobile League
I cont.
International Harvester
J
JPL (cyclecar)
Jacquet Flyer
Jaeger (automobile)
Janney (automobile)
Jeffery (automobile)
Jewett (automobile)
Jordan Motor Car Company
Junior R
K
K-R-I-T Motor Car Company
Kaiser Jeep
Kaiser Motors
Kaiser-Frazer
Kauffman Motor Vehicle Company
Keeton (automobile company)
Keller (automobile)
Kent's Pacemaker
Kermath
Kess-Line 8
Kessler (automobile)
Keystone (gasoline automobile)
Keystone (steam automobile)
King-Remick
Kirk Manufacturing Company (automobile company)
Kissel Motor Car Company
Knight Engine
Knox Automobile
Komet (American automobile)
Koppin
L
LaFayette Motors
LaSalle (automobile)
Lad's Car
Lambert (automobile)
Lenawee
Lexington (automobile)
Liberty Motor Car
Light (automobile)
Lincoln (1914 automobile)
Lincoln Motor Car Works
Lion (automobile)
Liquid Air
List of defunct United States automobile manufacturers
Little (automobile)
Little Detroit Speedster
Little Princess (automobile)
Locomobile
Lone Star (1920 automobile)
Lorraine (automobile)
Lozier
LuLu
Luverne (automobile)
Lyons Atlas
M
MPM (automobile)
Malcolm Jones
Marathon Motor Works
Marble-Swift
Marion (automobile)
Marion-Handley
Marmon
Marquette (automobile)
Marr (automobile)
Marvel (automobile)
Maryland (automobile)
Mason Truck
Matheson (automobile)
M
Maxwell automobile
McFarlan Automobile
Menominee (automobile)
Mercer (car)
Mercury (cyclecar)
Merkur
Metz Company (automobile)
Michigan (1903 automobile)
Michigan (1908 automobile)
Midland Motor Company
Miller (automobile)
Model Automobile Company
Moline-Knight
Monarch (automobile)
Monroe (automobile)
Moon Motor Car
Morris & Salom
Mors (automobile)
Motor Bob
Muntz Car Company
N
Nash Motors
Nash Rambler
Nash-Healey
National Motor Vehicle Company
Nelson (automobile)
Nielson (automobile)
Northern (automobile)
Nu-Klea Starlite
Nyberg Automobile
O
O-We-Go
Oakland (automobile)
Oldsmobile
Olympian (automobile)
Orient (automobile)
Orlo
Overland Automobile
Owen Magnetic
P
Packard
Paige automobile
Parry Auto Company
Partin Manufacturing Company (automobile company)
Paterson (automobile)
Pathfinder (1912 automobile)
Peerless
Penn (automobile)
Pennant (automobile)
Phelps Motor Vehicle
Piedmont (1917 automobile)
Pierce-Arrow
Piggins
P cont.
Pilgrim of Providence
Pittsburgh Six
Plass
Playboy Automobile Company
Plymouth (automobile)
Pope Manufacturing Company
Pope-Robinson
Pope-Toledo
Pope-Waverley
Powell Motor Company
Premier (automobile)
Premier Motor Manufacturing
Pullman automobile
Pungs Finch
Q
Queen (American automobile)
Quick (automobile)
Quinby (automobile)
R
REO Motor Car Company
Rambler (automobile)
Rayfield (automobile)
Reber Automobile
Rickenbacker (car)
Riker Electric Vehicle Company
Roosevelt (automobile)
Ross (automobile company)
Ross (automobile)
Ross (steam automobile company)
Royal Motor Company
Rugby (automobile)
Rutenber Motor Company
Ruxton (automobile)
S
Sampson (automobile)
Savage GT
Saxon (automobile)
Schacht (automobile)
Schaum
Scripps-Booth
Selden Motor Vehicle Company
Shad-Wyck
Shawmobile
Simplo
Sinclair-Scott (automobile)
Single Center
Sintz
Skene (automobile)
Smith Automobile Company
Smith Flyer
Spaulding (automobile)
Speedwell Motor Car Company
St. Louis Motor Company
Standard (1904 automobile)
S cont.
Standard (1912 automobile)
Standard Six
Standard Steam Car
Standard Steel Car Company
Stanley Steamer
Stanwood (automobile)
Star (automobile)
Staver
Steamobile
Stearns (automobile)
Stearns-Knight
Stevens-Duryea
Stewart-Coats
Stoddard-Dayton
Stout Scarab
Streco Turnpike Cruiser
Studebaker
Studebaker-Garford
Studebaker-Packard Corporation
Stutz Motor Company
Success Automobile Manufacturing Company
Sun (automobile)
T
Templar automobile
Terraplane
Thomas B. Jeffery Company
Thomas Motor Company
Tincher
1948 Tucker Sedan
Twombly (cyclecar)
U
US Automobile
Union (automobile)
United States Motor Company
V
Van Wagoner
Velie
Vermont (automobile)
Viking (automobile)
Virginian (automobile)
Vulcan (automobile company)
W
Ware Steam Wagon
Westcott automobile
Western Tool Works (automobile company)
White Motor Company
Wills Sainte Claire
Willys
Willys-Knight
Wilson Automobile
Windsor (automobile)
Winton Motor Carriage Company
Woods Motor Vehicle
X
Xenia (automobile)
Y
Yale (1916 automobile)


How many got government bailouts?
 

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How many got government bail-outs? None I can think of except, arguably, Plymouth as a part of Chrysler.
 
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