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Why don't you subscribe to "The Army Times", "The Navy Times", and Leatherneck and find out for yourself?

...wait a minute here.

...why waste my time giving you legitimate information when there is so much impeccable and accurate information available online?

Just keep on doing what you are doing and maintain your irrevalance.
 

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who was howard dean..... who is ronpaul?
 

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Ron Paul will be the "Howard Dean" of the Republican party, and will probably go out the same way.
Way to avoid the truth...

Face it, your puppet idols are not speaking for the average American. Americans are waking up to the system they are having to deal with. Why do you think 100 million people do not vote? They feel the system is too FUBARed beyond repair. With folks like the Hildabeast, Obama, Romney, Ghouliani and Thompson running. Americans for a long time did not have a choice. Now they do, that man is Ron Paul and more people are hearing and supporting his message everyday.

Oh and the military still gives more money to the anti-war guy. Guess they don't like the chicken-hawks who call for more wars.
 

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The Patriot Perspective

Anatomy of a BIG Lie: ‘Phony Soldiers’

Regular readers are aware that, since The Patriot’s founding a decade ago, we’ve included a short section within Friday’s Digest called, “The BIG Lie.” It’s a section we’ve reserved for egregious examples of Leftist disinformation.

There is an old maxim that if one repeats a lie often and loud enough, it will eventually be perceived as the truth.

Adolf Hitler defined that dictum in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf, writing that a big lie must be so “colossal” that the public would be confident that no national leaders “could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.”

After Hitler became the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party, his chief propagandist, Joseph Goebbels, used the Third Reich’s big-lie apparatus to fortify the Nazi campaign against Jews. Goebbels blamed the Jews for Germany’s inability to recover from World War I, and this big lie led to the Holocaust—the wholesale murder of some six million men, women and children.

After Germany’s WWII defeat, Soviet leader Joseph Stalin and subsequent Communist leaders perfected the big-lie propaganda machine with media “dezinformatsia” campaigns. The primary organ for disseminating this disinformation was the official newspaper of the Central Committee of the Communist Party, Pravda, which in English means “the truth.” Even the name is a big lie.

Here in the U.S. , the organs of Leftist disinformation have assumed equally impressive identities: The New York Times, The Washington Post, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NPR, and the list goes on. (For a weekly recounting of the MSM’s biggest whoppers, please see the “Dezinformatsia” section of our Wednesday Chronicle.)

Most recently, the Democrats’ dezinformatsia machines were running overtime to discredit Gen. David Petraeus, commander of our Armed Forces in Iraq. In advance of his congressional testimony about the progress of Operation Iraqi Freedom, the Leftmedia gave endless play to those Demo-gogues who have bet their 2008 electoral prospects on failure in and retreat from Iraq.

On the morning of Gen. Petraeus’s testimony, the Democrats’ most effective web-based organ of disinformation, MoveOn.org, was given a deep discount by the Democrats’ most effective print-based organ of disinformation, The New York Times, to run an appalling full-page lie under the heading, “General Petraeus or General Betray Us?”

Democrats and the George Soros-funded MoveOn thought they could, with impunity, brand one of our nation’s most distinguished warriors a traitor. By extension, they branded as traitors all American forces fighting jihadi terrorists in Iraq and around the world. However, Leftist politicos and MoveOn grossly underestimated the new media’s ability to expose such a colossal lie and grossly overestimated the public’s tolerance for such accusations once brought to their attention.

In short, the Left got caught in a big lie and was severely rebuked.

In an effort to offset that rebuke, Democrats and their radical cadre have fabricated another big lie—this one targeting Rush Limbaugh.

Rush, of course, is the arch-nemesis of the Left. He broke ground for conservative perspective on the radio, much as Fox News did for television and The Patriot did for the Web.

To recap: Rush had been responding to an on-air caller who noted that the MSM has continually dredged up a handful of troops—some real, some fake—to provide antiwar statements to support the Demos’ desire for defeat and retreat. Rush agreed, noting that some of these anti-warriors, in particular Jesse MacBeth, have flat-out lied about their military service. He rightly dubbed them “phony soldiers.”

For the record, Jesse MacBeth, the prototypical anti-OIF poster boy, was in fact born Jesse Al-Zaid. Al-Zaid claimed to have served in Iraq, even receiving a Purple Heart after being shot. He claimed to have witnessed atrocities committed by “fellow soldiers.” But it turns out that Al-Zaid never completed boot camp, being discharged after 44 days because of his “entry level performance and conduct.” He was not a Green Beret, never in Special Ops, never in Iraq—though he even attempted to defraud the VA of more than $10,000 for “Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.” Al-Zaid, whose protest diatribes have been circulating for several years, is indeed a phony soldier.

But the truth never deters the Left’s big lies.

Their so-called “watchdog group,” Media Matters for America, removed from context the two words “phony soldiers” and blast-broadcasted the big lie that Rush had branded that label on the handful of anti-OIF protestors who actually served in Iraq. In lock step, that smear was dutifully regurgitated by the MSM and then picked up by opportunistic Demo-gogues in Congress, desperately seeking a reversal of charges after their disastrous attempt to question the patriotism of Gen. Petraeus.

Chief among the most despicable of those propagating this dezinformatsia campaign from their Senate soapboxes are John Kerry and Tom Harkin.

Kerry, like Jesse Al-Zaid, embellished his military record and then used his “hero status” as a platform to falsely accuse ground troops in Vietnam of all manner of atrocities. (He is the target of a national petition to indict him for acts of treason, which now has more than 200,000 signers.)

Kerry’s most notable commentary on Iraq in the past year was his assertion that American service personnel are “stuck in Iraq” because they are too stupid to get a better job.

This week he led the charge against Rush, saying, “In a single moment on his show, Limbaugh managed to question the patriotism of men and women in uniform who have put their lives on the line and many who died for his right to sit safely in his air conditioned studio peddling hate.”

This is the same Jean-Francois Kerry who, back in 2005, accused U.S. forces in Iraq of “going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, uh, uh, uh, you know, women...”

Iowa Demo Sen. Tom Harkin, who also falsified his military record by claiming to have been a Vietnam combat pilot when he actually flew repaired aircraft from Japan to U.S. bases in Vietnam, perpetuated the lie, saying, “I must say that as a veteran, I find it offensive that Rush Limbaugh would attack the patriotism and the dedication of any soldier fighting in Iraq... I also find it disturbing that his offensive comments have not been condemned by our Republican colleagues or by the Commander in Chief, all of whom are so quick to condemn a similar personal attack on General Petraeus several weeks ago.”

Of course, as Limbaugh said in response, “Why should they condemn something that wasn’t said? You know what ought to be condemned here is [the Left’s] wanton inability to find the truth.”

Further perpetuating the big lie—and further wasting the taxpayers’ hard-earned money—Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and his cadre of MoveOn Demos sent a letter to Mark Mays, CEO of Clear Channel Communications, which broadcasts Rush’s program via more than 1,200 stations. The letter demanded that Mays condemn “Limbaugh’s hateful and unpatriotic” remarks.

Further, former Democrat presidential wannabe, General Wesley Clark, who has endorsed Hillary Clinton for President, is demanding that Rush be removed from the Armed Forces Radio network.

In the House, Lefty Mark Udall introduced a big-lie resolution condemning Limbaugh, and 26 Democrats have signed on as co-sponsors.

And what of Media Matters, the propaganda organ that launched the lie?

My colleague, National Review essayist Byron York, offered this analysis: “Media Matters is much more than a traditional media-watchdog group. Indeed, it is probably more accurate to view Media Matters as part of the constellation of groups that have come together on the left in the last year or so, all aimed at electing a Democratic President. Their [donors list] reads like a Who’s Who of those who have financed the new activist Left.”

“Constellation of groups”? In other words, a Socialist propaganda network that would make even Goebbels blush with pride!


On cross-examination

“All Democrats in the military are not phony soldiers, but all phony soldiers seem to be Democrats... In addition to famous fake soldiers promoted by the anti-war crowd, like Jesse MacBeth and ‘Winter Soldier’ Al Hubbard, even liberals with actual military experience are constantly being caught in the middle of some liberal hoax... John Kerry claimed to be a valiant, Purple Heart-deserving Vietnam veteran, who spent Christmas 1968 in Cambodia—until he ran for President and more than 280 Swift Boat Veterans called him a liar. We’ve been waiting more than 20 months for Kerry to make good on his ‘Meet the Press’ pledge to sign form 180, which would allow the military to release his records.” —Ann Coulter

Open query

“Congressional Democrats are trying to divert attention from insulting our military leader in Iraq and pandering to the loony left by attacking Rush Limbaugh. He is one of the strongest supporters of our troops. Yet Democrats claim he’s not being strong enough. I wonder who General [David] Petraeus and his troops think is most supportive?” —Fred Thompson


The BIG lie

“Apparently this week Rush Limbaugh used the phrase ‘phony soldiers’ to describe American troops who opposed the Iraq war. Given that the President has commented, uh, last week, uh, on the MoveOn ad, uh, on General Petraeus, and called it ‘disgusting,’ is this something that the President would, you know, feel compelled to comment on?” —CNN Reporter to White House spokesperson Dana Perino—typical of the propagation of the latest “BIG lie”
 

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Hey Maus!

Is Hizzoner hiding out in your basement with the rest of the phony soldiers?
At last report there are 60 "phony soldier" cases under active investigation by the military and FBI.


Mayor Of Atlantic City Goes AWOL

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J., Oct. 4, 2007
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(CBS) Where in the world is Atlantic City Mayor Robert Levy?

Levy pulled a disappearing act last Friday amid reports that he was under federal investigation for falsifying his military record. The local newspaper, The Press, reported that the mayor had falsely claimed to be a Green Beret and was under investigation by the Justice Department.

A spokesman will only say Levy is on medical leave, but won't say where he is or what might be wrong with his health.

The vanishing act has left Atlantic City residents perplexed and angry.

"If you are sick, if you are in the hospital, let the public know, let the council know," City Councilman Tim Mancuso told CBS station KYW-TV in Philadelphia.

The Newark Star-Ledger, citing unidentified sources, reported that Levy was suspected of embellishing his military record for financial gain. As a veteran, he could have received more money by exaggerating his service accomplishments.

What's ironic about the mayor's problem is that he does have a solid military record, having served two tours in Vietnam with the Army. He was never a Green Beret, however.

A friend interviewed by the Star-Ledger provided an explanation for Levy's disappearance. Ed Kline, a former assemblyman who grew up with Levy, told the newspaper that the mayor was "down and out," "devastated" and "destroyed" by the revelations about his military record.
 

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Hey Maus!

Is Hizzoner hiding out in your basement with the rest of the phony soldiers?
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So now you're attacking the troops huh? Don't attack the soldiers they're just doing their job, "shut up and support the troops".
 

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Don't see any attacks on the troops - only on etoin shrudlus who CLAIM, falsely, to be or have been soldaten.
 

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Ok..his story really has nothing to do with Ron Paul raising more money from retired and active military personnel than the other candidates.

Denial is more than river in Egypt.
 

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Dude, in case you didn't notice,
THE ELECTION IS A YEAR AWAY, WHO GIVES A CARE!!!

ANYTHING can happen between then and now.

Let me put this in to words you might understand;
In racing, just because a driver leading the pack at the begining of a race, doesn't mean he will finsh first at the end.

Common sense along with experience will tell you this.

If you really want to help your Ron Paul, stop trying to help Ron Paul.
Because of you, anything you post about Ron Paul, is suspect.

10 months from now, you might be taken seriously.
Then again, maybe not.

Think, before you post!
Thank you.
 

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i 2nd that emotion.
 

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Retired marine, thanks for your post
It still amuses me that dirty and mouser kid still believe the dimocrat slime attack on Limbaugh, even though their attempt has been discredited ad nauseum
 

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Dude, in case you didn't notice,
THE ELECTION IS A YEAR AWAY, WHO GIVES A CARE!!!

ANYTHING can happen between then and now.

Let me put this in to words you might understand;
In racing, just because a driver leading the pack at the begining of a race, doesn't mean he will finsh first at the end.

Common sense along with experience will tell you this.

If you really want to help your Ron Paul, stop trying to help Ron Paul.
Because of you, anything you post about Ron Paul, is suspect.

10 months from now, you might be taken seriously.
Then again, maybe not.

Think, before you post!
Thank you.
I'm glad its getting to you. You're worried now and it shows.
 

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*Note: These statistics include the contributions of employees who recorded or indicated their military branch. Contributions where no employer was specified were naturally not included.

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C'mon people... this "report" is based on FEC filings on contributions of $200 or more, and you can put whatever you want in the "Employee" fill-in-the-blank.


You really believe Thompson has received ZERO dollars from military voters? Please don't be that gullible.

This report completely ignores contributions of less than $200, which is what MOST military men will donate to ANY campaign.

From the FECs website: "Federal Election Law requires candidates to report the name, address, occupation, and employer for contributions that aggregate in excess of $200 in an election cycle"

How many military people do you know that will contribute $200 or more? On a soldier's pay!!! This report wreaks, and it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Where's my Staples button? That was easy...
 

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MB/DT or who ever you are today,

Yeah, I'm worried, more than a year out and not a vote HAS BEEN COUNTED.
Oh, I AM worried.



I just find it odd that you and your Ron Paul cult followers are getting the lube out and celebrating with each other when nothing of any importance has happened to any candidate, yet.
 

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Mauserboy, I will be so glad when you graduate university, and then find out you don't know everything.
Ten to one: He has to finish high school or get his GED before he can find his way to community college leftist utopia.
 

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Mauserboy, I will be so glad when you graduate university, and then find out you don't know everything.
If American exists by then. Under the Hildabeast, I'm not sure how much longer we'd have...
 

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*Note: These statistics include the contributions of employees who recorded or indicated their military branch. Contributions where no employer was specified were naturally not included.

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C'mon people... this "report" is based on FEC filings on contributions of $200 or more, and you can put whatever you want in the "Employee" fill-in-the-blank.


You really believe Thompson has received ZERO dollars from military voters? Please don't be that gullible.

This report completely ignores contributions of less than $200, which is what MOST military men will donate to ANY campaign.

From the FECs website: "Federal Election Law requires candidates to report the name, address, occupation, and employer for contributions that aggregate in excess of $200 in an election cycle"

How many military people do you know that will contribute $200 or more? On a soldier's pay!!! This report wreaks, and it doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Where's my Staples button? That was easy...
I have a feeling you wouldn't be saying that if the main stream guys DID have more money from military personnel than RP...but that isn't the case is it?
 
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