[oldmodel11]

New to this forum. Can anyone help translate this?

 

[Hejsan]

I get the drift of this tag and I am impressed. I will leave a more exact translation to others more qualified. In the meantime, a few images of the total rifle and few of the sights would be helpful?

 

[oldmodel11]

 

[Hejsan]

Very interesting images and very interesting rifle. The images do add a great deal to understanding of the stock tag. As I mentioned before, I will let a better linguist than me do the translating. In the meantime, there are references on the tag to the KATF which was the Royal Swedish Army Ordnance Administration (Swedish: Kungliga Armétygförvaltningen, KATF). It was a Swedish administrative authority which existed from 1954 to 1968.

More to follow. . .

 

[Highrider]

Agree with Hejsan on waiting for the real translation, but in the meantime, what is the backstory and how did you come to possess this jewel? Many curious minds and all that you know.
You have a gorgeous Swede there and my jealousy meter is redlined.
Standing by.......
Please to excuse my bad manners in delaying a big welcome to the forum!! You came in on a tidal wave with that CG.

 

[Kawicrash]

Cool front sight! I've never seen one like that before..

 

[sheepdawg]

And sitting in a nice piece of French Walnut too. Is the toe spliced?

 

[oldmodel11]

Well, there is not much to tell. I traded for a M96 a few months ago and after shooting it my son I have grew pretty fond of it. We were walking around a local gun show and my son found this one. He never asks for anything, but this time he says “Dad we have to buy this”. We tried to find info on the tag but Google translate didn’t satisfy us. So long story short a 15 year old spotted it.

 

[oldmodel11]

And sitting in a nice piece of French Walnut too. Is the toe spliced?

 

[swede]

Welcome to the Forum . I agree , that is a fine Carl Gustaf m/96 rifle . Well worth buying in my opinion .

I am not knocking your rifle , just trying to add info for you . It is missing it's rear sight ( relative to the stock plate info ) . I think it had a SI-GA rear sight . I think the front sight may be the correct SI-GA sight according to the plate on the stock . Someone decided to keep the SI-GA rear sight and replaced it with a standard m/96 rear sight ladder . Nothing wrong with that . That extra tall front sight was needed for the very tall SI-GA rear sight & may not work out with your rear sight . The SI-GA rear sight is very RARE to find in my opinion . If you will notice a large tapped hole in the rear sight base , which was originally a small set screw to align the base for soldering . It was the only thing holding the rear sight in position . The rear of the SI-GA sight rested on the receiver and moved up & down by a cam on the elevation dial . There were at least two versions on the SI-GA sight , one with a peep at the rear and another with a "U" notch at the rear .
By the way , if you dislike it for any reason , just send it on my way . Unfortunately , I no longer own the SI-GA sights in the following photos .
Actually , that is the 1st rifle I have seen that had the SI-GA sight mounted on it at one time . One of our Swedish members will have to make a translation for you .

 

[Stewbaby]

Voided by Swede’s reply just before I hit send the first time

 

[bokila]

Took a stab at the translation of the plate - "ARILAR" might have a more correct version when he gets online

Nr 14 in KATF commercial demonstration set of sights for rifles. Approved by the shooting association board in collaboration with KATF 6/9 1954.

Diopter opening/Si-Ga Manufacturer V. Sandberg (a person's name)
Sight Post/Si-Ga Manufacturer V. Sandberg
Sight post protector/Si-Ga Manufacturer V. Sandberg

This marking plate or the mounted sight can not be removed or changed from rifle no 74076
Equipment belongs to KATF

 

[oldmodel11]

Welcome to the Forum . I agree , that is a fine Carl Gustaf m/96 rifle . Well worth buying in my opinion .

I am not knocking your rifle , just trying to add info for you . It is missing it's rear sight ( relative to the stock plate info ) . I think it had a SI-GA rear sight . I think the front sight may be the correct SI-GA sight according to the plate on the stock . Someone decided to keep the SI-GA rear sight and replaced it with a standard m/96 rear sight ladder . Nothing wrong with that . That extra tall front sight was needed for the very tall SI-GA rear sight & may not work out with your rear sight . The SI-GA rear sight is very RARE to find in my opinion . If you will notice a large tapped hole in the rear sight base , which was originally a small set screw to align the base for soldering . It was the only thing holding the rear sight in position . The rear of the SI-GA sight rested on the receiver and moved up & down by a cam on the elevation dial . There were at least two versions on the SI-GA sight , one with a peep at the rear and another with a "U" notch at the rear .
By the way , if you dislike it for any reason , just send it on my way . Unfortunately , I no longer own the SI-GA sights in the following photos .
Actually , that is the 1st rifle I have seen that had the SI-GA sight mounted on it at one time . One of our Swedish members will have to make a translation for you .
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Thank you very much for the information. When you say rare, do you mean unobtainable rare? It seems to me this rifle is one that needs one.

 

[oldmodel11]

Took a stab at the translation of the plate - "ARILAR" might have a more correct version when he gets online

Nr 14 in KATF commercial demonstration set of commercial sights for rifles. Approved by the shooting association board in collaboration with KATF 6/9 1954.

Diopter opening/Si-Ga Manufacturer V. Sandberg (a person's name)
Sight Post/Si-Ga Manufacturer V. Sandberg
Sight post protector/Si-Ga Manufacturer V. Sandberg

This marking plate or the mounted sight can not be removed or changed from rifle no 74076
Equipment belongs to KATF

Very interesting. Thank you.

 

[sheepdawg]

Now starts the hunt. Probably going to put a sizable dent in your wallet.

Interesting rifle.

 

[swede]

Thank you very much for the information. When you say rare, do you mean unobtainable rare? It seems to me this rifle is one that needs one.

I would say RARE , but one might pop up for sale tomorrow or never . If one shows up and there are sight collectors bidding , it could sell in the $300/$500 range in the USA . Maybe more than the cost of your rifle . Another missing part according to " bokila " is the front sight hood . So , you have the front sight base extension & blade add-on . You need the hood as well . I have never seen those 2 items before . The two rear sights I had were around $150 each in the 1990's . There were a few others at that time & none seen by me in the last 20 years . Of course , I might have missed one . As an example , there is a rare J-F rear micrometer sikte on EBAY now . It is around $300 and has not sold in a many weeks . It is one of the few Swedish micrometer sights with windage adjustment . Most need to adjust the front blade to get the correct windage . Law of supply and demand . If it was my rifle , I would want that SI-GA sight . Of course , there are a lot of things I want related to Swedish Mauser that I will never find in my lifetime !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck !

 

[oldmodel11]

I would say RARE , but one might pop up for sale tomorrow or never . If one shows up and there are sight collectors bidding , it could sell in the $300/$500 range in the USA . Maybe more than the cost of your rifle . Another missing part according to " bokila " is the front sight hood . So , you have the front sight base extension & blade add-on . You need the hood as well . I have never seen those 2 items before . The two rear sights I had were around $150 each in the 1990's . There were a few others at that time & none seen by me in the last 20 years . Of course , I might have missed one . As an example , there is a rare J-F rear micrometer sikte on EBAY now . It is around $300 and has not sold in a many weeks . It is one of the few Swedish micrometer sights with windage adjustment . Most need to adjust the front blade to get the correct windage . Law of supply and demand . If it was my rifle , I would want that SI-GA sight . Of course , there are a lot of things I want related to Swedish Mauser that I will never find in my lifetime !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck !

Thank you sir for sharing your knowledge. The things you never knew you needed... LOL

 

[Hopdevil]

I now find myself wanting a rear SI-GI sight.

Cool rifle OP and welcome!


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[swede]

For now , you need to find out the thread size ? Most likely metric ? If you have digital calipers , measure the hole size . Metric threads sizes : diameter minus the pitch = tap drill size . As follows :
m/3 x .50 pitch = 2.5 m/m tap drill size
m/4 x .70 pitch = 3.3 m/m tap drill size
m/5 x .80 pitch = 4.2 m/m tap drill size
m/6 x 1.0 pitch = 5.0 m/m tap drill size
These are just a few of the common metric thread sizes . There are sizes in between and fine threads . Those listed are course threads . Also , they could be British Whitworth or American SAE sizes ?
You can find metric screws at Lowes or Home Depot , the course sizes .

 

[swede]

Here is a link in the Sticky threads above for the SI-GA sight . No photos known at the time for the front sight & hood ???????????

Notes on diopters, pics on SI-GA

Dating diopters is not easy. Lot of dates circulate but seems that several is lacking reliable sources. Following is found in papers from FSR from the actual time. In the beginning of the 40s discussions about diopters pros and cons in FSR. The military was against to be used on FSR army-guns...

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