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I acquired several Mosins a year or 2 ago, among which were 3 little M91/59 carbines.

Two of them appear to have seen little if any use, or perhaps they were refurbed prior to export. Both have blonde stocks, 95+% bluing, one is a 38 Tula, the other a 42 Izhevsk. Both are import marked from Century.

The other one is decidedly different. It has a tigerstriped stock, bluing is worn, probably around 75% or so intact, and the only cartouche I can see is what appears to be a Tula star on the right side of the buttstock. Also, no import stamps anywhere, but there is what appears to be a serial # on the left side of the receiver parallel to the stock line. Can anyone help shed any light on this mystery Mosin?

 

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Very nice 91/59. I have a Chinese Type 53 with the same kind of tiger striped stock as well, and the stock is faded a bit like the ones in your picture too. The marking on the receiver is, I believe the import stamp, you should find an import mark under the front of the barrel as well.

If you ever feel like letting this one go... ;)
LOL...I'll keep you in mind, but to be honest, as much as I love Mosins in general, and Finns in particular, these little 91/59's really intrigue me, especially when they look like this one. Most every one I've seen has looked like it was built / modified within the past year, but this one looks to have seen some use. Add in the sling, and it's immensely intriguing. I'd really love to know where it comes from. I don't see any identifying marks on it anywhere, but I'll reexamine it this weekend.

As for an import mark...if that's what that is, it's the only one on the rifle. There is no mark that says who imported it, which leads me to wonder exactly what it is. The stock itself screams Finn to me, but there's no [SA] mark anywhere, so unless it was unmarked, then recaptured, then modified, then issued, then sold without refurbishment, I don't know what to make of it.
 

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Is it reasonable to suppose that it saw action in a satellite nation or was simply a rugh and tumble war unit that saw limited refurbishment? Is there a site or source from which one might glean a better idea of the whats and wheres that a given rifle saw, based on s/n or other characteristic?
 

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Sigh...everytime I see a Tula round receiver 91/59, I kick myself. I own the other variations (Tula hex, Izhevsk round and hex, and sanitized round and hex), and passed on two Tula rounds when they were more plentiful about four years ago. Didn't see them disappearing so fast.

Anyway, those are two very nice carbines. Congrats!
I'll post pics of my other 2 by the weekend. This one is a '43 Izhevsk and is just unusual. It really has me digging for more information, but short of calling Izhevsk, I have no idea where to start. Sooner or later there's bound to be some more definitive information on these or a source that can give some concrete answers, but that's the joy of collecting Mosins, I reckon.

Thanks for the heads up on the sling, Sgt. I'll check into it.
 

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Thanks, Pahtu. I'm rather partial to that one. I have yet to fire any of them...may try to do so this afternoon. I can't wait to see how they perform and whether they'll prefer LB or HB ammo.

I really wish there were more fact and less conjecture regarding these little carbines. Theories abound, but the kicker is that they're all marked "1891/59" as no other Mosins, not even Finn rifles, are marked with a model designation. It looks more like a double-date code.

Were these the original AK's to be spread around the globe arming revolutionaries? If memory serves, the AK was being milled around this time...too time-consuming and laborious to allow the kind of production needed to arm thousands of commie insurrectionists. I doubt we'll ever know, which is what makes these so doggone interesting, at least for me.
 

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I think the clue is in the fact they are all stamped 1891/59

Who in East Block would use such 1891 designation?

This mystery of origin is artificially induced: the importer knows where they
got them.

Like the sky will fall if they just said : "These are Czech origin or Bulgarian police rifles "
Good morning, sir. I'd be interested to see your accuracy results @ 600 mts, as well as pics of your rifles. I'll go back and check your thread from a week or 2 ago.
 
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