[Lido]

- Recently I got a M91/24 socket bayonet. It is actually a Russian made M1891 socket bayonet manufactured at Tula Arsenal (having the "hammer" mark nicely stamped) which was later modified in Finland for the M91/24 rifle having a stepped barrel and a higher front sight. At the rear face of the socket there is cut a recess 4.1mm (0.161") deep having the diameter of 18mm (0.708"). The locking ring has an altered bridge to allow the taller front sight of the M91/24 rifle to go forward and the socket bayonet to be fixed to the weapon. A new serial number "S 71179" was stamped on the bayonet in Finland. The old Russian serial number is barely visible. The serial number "S 71179" could not be stamped by the Russians since they use the Cyrillic alphabet in which the letter "S" is written as "C". I don't have a scabbard for this M91/24 socket bayonet.
My question is: how rare is this M91/24 socket bayonet modified in Finland for the M91/24 rifle with a stepped barrel ???? Thanks in advance for any help, Lido 02/17/12

 

[old-smithy]

any chance of a picture of the modofied area?

 

[AndyB]

Vic Thomas a moderator of this forum, has a great article about the M91 bayonets used by Finns, by some are there a SA stamp.

 

[Lido]

any chance of a picture of the modofied area?

- @ old-smithy: It's hard to show in the same picture both modified areas (recess at the rear face of the socket and altered bridge of the locking ring). I'm going to take some comparison pictures (between the Russian M1891 and the M91/24 socket bayonets), make a few drawings and write an article for the S.A.B.C. Journal. Lido 02/18/12 P.S. In his book named "Rifles of the World" (2nd Edition, page 125), John Walter mentioned that only a toatal of 13,000 stepped barrels had been ordered by the Finns from SIG - Switzerland to be fitted to the M91/24 rifles.

 

[old-smithy]

I shall look forward to the SABC article

I just got a fantastic picture of Finnish troops using the Mosin bayonet and wearing either German or Asutrian Ersatz metal scabbards for them, somethign I have never heard mentioned before, I have the Finnish leather scabbard and a finnish Mosin but the SA marked one eludes me

 

[Lido]

Vic Thomas a moderator of this forum, has a great article about the M91 bayonets used by Finns, by some are there a SA stamp.

- Where can I read that great article about the M91 socket bayonets used in Finland and mentioned above ??? Thanks in advance, Lido 03/08/12

 

[AndyB]

When You goes here to basic page, there should be Mosin finnish part information.This forum was started on Mosins.

 

[USMCsean]

They are very rare. Think about it. 13k vs millions. Then throw in war and time.

 

[TP]

- Where can I read that great article about the M91 socket bayonets used in Finland and mentioned above ??? Thanks in advance, Lido 03/08/12

Here is Vic's great article on Finish bayonets:

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/Finn-bayonets.asp

 

[Lido]

Here is Vic's great article on Finish bayonets:

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/Finn-bayonets.asp

- @ TP: OK, thanks very much. Lido 03/09/12