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No , your assumptions are not correct . Originally , on the M-41 sniper , locking set screws were used , but at some later date the mounting screws were only staked with a punch . Even later , I see the screws not punched .

All the M-41b snipers that I have seen are staked with a punch ( no set screws ) .
 

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If there are no dowel holes drilled through into the receiver , it is a put together sniper for sure . They go completely through the receiver , as well as the tapped holes . Better pass on this one .
 

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Assuming the AGA scopes were numbered from , say 001 or 100 , there were less than 1000 made of each , M-42 & M-44 . We have never seen either type with a number higher than 3 digits .

With the Ajack scopes reported just under 4000 in serial numbers and a total sniper inventory reported at 5300 snipers , that would leave 1300 AGA scopes if our figures are correct . The date of the 5300 figure is unknown , so if a later date , it is possible that some of each type may have been taken out of service .

We have found no proof of production numbers at this point in time for any of the 3 types of scopes .
 

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Usually the Ajack scopes & rifles are in much better condition , compared to the AGA scopes & rifles . Many of these were surplused to the USA back in the 1960's . The majority of Ajack snipers came into the USA in 1996 via SAMCO Global . Therefore , as a rule of thumb , the Ajack snipers will bring more money , despite the AGA scopes numbering less than half the number of Ajack scopes used . That is not to say a bidder will pay more for an AGA sniper at auction , just to fill the hole in his collection . Also , the Ajack is considered by many to be better than the AGA scopes . Probably the reason that mostly Ajack scopes were upgraded in 1955 & remained in service until 1994 . A few AGA M-44 scoped snipers were retained with the M-41b snipers . A few of them have been posted on this board .

There is no thread that records the AGA sniper serial numbers that I know of . I have collected only a few myself .

AGA M-42 scope :

20
21
55
57
77
97
101
152
171
178
199
202
208
237
264
271
276
278
301
302
308
312
320
339
368
418
424
430
507
600
610
614
615
651
652
654
656
663
672
691 , mount & rings = 481 , base = 2068
714
724
732
736
738
761
794
830
841
848
850
851
854
880
883
884
896
914
921
927
973
1008
1009
1012

AGA M-44 scope :



3
5
6
10
15
27
36
45
82 ( no AGA marking )
87 ( no AGA marking )
106 ( no AGA marking )
110
122
144
145 ( no AGA marking )
150
166
169
191
211
226
231 ( no AGA marking )
235
243
259
260 ( no AGA marking )
300
305
323 ( marked AGA )
336
337 ( marked AGA )
339
371 ( marked AGA )
374
376 ( marked AGA )
387
418
432
433
453
454 ( marked AGA )
455
461
482 ( marked AGA )
491
785
1111 ( anti-tank gun , scope marked 7.5cm PVKAN , M/43 ) marked AGA
1130 ( anti-tank gun , scope marked 7.5cm PVKAN , M/43 )
1159 ( anti-tank gun , scope marked 7.5cm PVKAN , M/43 ) marked AGA
1228
1238
 

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Reeve & Kevin : Thanks for the additional serial numbers . I have added them to the list .

Reeve : Just curious if your sniper carbine is calibrated for the 17.7" barrel ??????
 

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Dan : The AGA M-42 scope is numbered on the focus ring .

Reeve : All of the Swede sniper scopes would be calibrated for the bullet drop of the M-41 ammo in a 29 inch barrel ( 100 to 800 meters ) . On the AGA M-44 scope , the ring on the elevation turret is calibrated 100 to 800 meters for the M-41 ammo . This ring would have to be changed or have additional markings if shooting M-41 ammo in a 17.7 inch barrel .

Does your elevation ring have additional markings or can you tell if you have a differant calibrated ring from your other AGA M-44 scopes ? I doubt that anyone has gone to that much trouble .
 

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They are pretty good groups for surplus firearms . You may get some better results trying other loads . I would be happy with both of them .

Wait a while & put your sniper up for auction again . One time you may get no bidders and another time you may have numerous bidders . Just a matter of having your auction at the same time that a buyer wants a sniper .

Good luck .
 

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Sorry to tell you that a Swedish or Ajack scope & mount will sell for more than a complete M-41b sniper . I see them on auction about 4 times a year . They sell in the $1000 to $1500 range & won't match your rifle . The dovetail probably won't fit either . Better to buy a correct sniper to start with .

I will send you a PM for one with a link if it is still current .
 

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I would be VERY suspicious of that rifle !!!! The dowels locate the base in a permanent position , while the 3 screws hold it on the receiver . The 3 locking screws were originally used , but later omited in favor of staking the screw heads in position .

First question , do the dowel holes go through the receiver ????????
Second , do you see fresh white metal where the 3 tapped holes come through the receiver ????????

Without seeing it myself , sounds like the work of Bubba ? Can you post some closeup photos ?
 

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There were some M-41 snipers in the USA which had been taken out of service & had the bases removed . Could be one of those that someone found a scope , mount & base for it . If there are dowel holes in the receiver , check closely to see if they are in line with the base . They are standard 3m/m dowels ( .118" ) .
 

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Another AGA M-42 sniper in Sweden !

One of our members ask me to post his AGA M-42 scope , number 1008 , which extends the previous high production number of 914 . Nice looking scope & mount .
 

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It would not take much to wring it off , or have you lost the screw that holds it in place or stripped the threads ? Not a thick enough wall thickness to helicoil the thread .

Check your PM .
 

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CMPShooter : Welcome to the forum . You have a good start to a Swedish mauser collection with a M-41 sniper . I have added your AGA M-42 scope serial number to the list above . Thanks for the info . Start another thread & show us your sniper .
 

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Someone post this company that cleans & rebuilds vintage scopes . Could get rid of your cloudy scope ? I do not know of anyone that has used this company , so I cannot recommend them . These AGA scopes are not sealed nor filled with nitrogen , so they are not moisture proof . If you live in humid conditions , the cloudiness will probably return . If there are any damaged parts , there is no supply in Sweden or the USA . The M-44 was supposed to be an improvement over the M-42 model for clarity . However , they are not necessarily all the same . My M-42 is crystal clear & My M-44 is a little cloudy . Personally , I would leave well enough alone , as long as you can see through the scope . Don't fix what ain't broke !!!!!!!!!

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Swede snipers in Finland

Sweden did not send armed soldiers to Finland , but did allow them to volunteer , carrying their own or donated rifles . I doubt any Swedish military sniper rifles were in Finland . Here is an example of a volunteer sniper , Evald Petrus Malmström , with a scoped rifle , non-military . A school teacher who was killed in action on Nov. 22 , 1941 on the Hangö line in Finland . We have no idea how many were made up like this , but one of our members has a sniper rifle just like this one .

 

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It is pretty obvious the scope was not meant for that forward mount , as the sniper's cheek is not even resting on the stock . Just a make shift sniper in war time conditions . Better than no sniper rifle .
 

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As far as I know , all the 4000 estimated Ajack scopes were updated to "B" model specifications . So , making up a M-41 Ajack sniper will probably be impossible . The closest thing I can suggest is getting a commercial Ajack scope . There is one on the trader now for about $400 . I do not know the seller or anything about the Ajack scope for sale . The choice is up to you . The Ajack scope body is 26 m/m & not compatible with the other AGA rings & mount .
 

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308nutt : Thanks for the info . It is good to know . They have to be extremely RARE . The Swede arsenals could not have missed upgrading many of the Ajack scopes . They even used AGA M-44 scopes on some of the 1955 "B" model rebuilds .
 
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