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This first post was copied & moved to the second post for ad avoidance.
I hope to add a lot more description to this post. Rifles with an asterisk are cosmetic representations of automatic weapons. I don't have Class 3 kind of money & still have any other collection.
I'll be adding the descriptions to these piecemeal.
 

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U.S. primary infantry arms (not including those peculiar to the naval infantry) so far in my collection.

Fusil d'Infanterie
Modèle 1763, Maubeuge, France, ca. 1763-68, cal. .69.

Charleville-type musket, contract of 1798, Eli Whitney, New Haven, CT. 1803-1810, cal. .69.

Charleville-type musket, Harper's Ferry Armory, VA. 1815, cal. .69.

Model of 1822, Harper's Ferry 1827, cal. 69.

Model of 1822, with modifications of 1828, Eli Whitney, New Haven, CT., 1834, cal. .69

Model 0f 1840, Springfield Armory, Mass., 1840, w/bayonet.

Model of 1842, Springfield Armory, Mass. 1845, cal. .69, with period sling.

Model of 1855 Rifle-musket, Springfield 1858, cal. .58.

Model of 1861, Parker, Snow & Co., Meriden, CT. 1863, cal. .58,missing ramrod, with period sling showing arsenal repair, .

Pattern 1853 Enfield Rifle-musket, Wikinson Sword, London, England, early 1860s, cal. .577.

Model 1861 Special Musket, Lamson, Goodenow & Yale, Windsor, VT. 1863, cal. .58.

Model of 1863, Bridesburg, 1864, cal. 58., with Frankford arsenal made .58 cartridge.

Model of 1864, Springfield, 1864, cal. .58.

Model of 1865 (1st Allin conversion), Springfield, 1866, cal. .58 rimfire, with .58 rimfire round.

Model of 1866 (2nd Allin converison) Springfield, 1866, cal. .50-70 Gov't., with .50-70 & .50 carbine rounds, both internally primed.

Model of 1868, Springfield, ca. 1869, cal. .50-70.

Model of 1870, Springfield, 1870-73, cal. .50-70.

Model of 1873, Springfield, ca. 1874, cal. .45-70 gov't., with socket bayonet, scabbard & frog, brass cased .45-70 dated 10-78, copper cased, internally primed (Benet) round dated 6-81.

Model of 1884, Springfield, 1889, cal. .45-70, with Model 1873 trowel bayonet & scabbard, model 1881 enlisted mens' felt dress helmet (missing chinstrap).

Model of 1888, Springfield, 1891, cal. .45-70, rod bayonet with 3rd Infantry M1881 officers' dress helmet (cloth covered cork body), Frankford Arsenal Pattern 1888 tinned-brass cased .45-70 round, dated 1-97.

Model of 1892, modified to Model 1896 standard, Springfield, 1895, cal. .30 U.S. Army (.30-40 Krag).

Model of 1896, Springfield, 1896, cal. .30-40, with Model 1887 sling, dated 1887, brass muzzle cover.

Model of 1896, Springfield, 1896, same rifle as above, with canvas action cover, Model 1887 summer helmet.

Model of 1898, Springfield, 1901, cal. .30-40, with Frankford Arsenal 1904 dated .30-40 round & Mills web sling.

Model of 1903, Rock Island Arsenal, IL., ca. 1905, cal. .30-03*, with F.A. 12-03 dated .30-03 round, Model 1905 bayonet-S.A. 1906 & M1907 sling, R.I.A. 1910.

Model of 1903, Springfield, ca. 1906-07. cal. .30-06 Springfield, w/ 1917 dated M1907 sling, Colt M1909 revolver & M1909 holster.

Model of 1903, Springfield, 1909, cal. .30-06, w/ Kerr 'No-buckl' sling, clip of 1917 dated .30-06, Colt M1917 revolver, Colt M1911 Pistol* & M1917 helmet.

Model of 1917, Eddystone Arsenal, PA., 1918, cal. .30-06, w/ Mk. I hand grenade (practice), Mk. II grenade, early style w/ very early 'cutback' Mk. II fuse & Smith & Wesson M1917 revolver.

M1903A1, Rock Island, rebuilt early 1940s, cal. .30-06, w/ M1907 sling, clip of F.A. 1938 dated M1 Ball, M1905 bayonet (S.A. 1918) w/ Victory plastics scabbard & M1917A1 helmet.

M1, Springfield, 1942, cal. .30-06, w/ web sling, clip of F.A. 1942 dated M2 Ball, American Fork & Hoe M1 bayonet & scabbard, M1 helmet made before October, 1943.

M1903A3, Smith-Corona Typewriter, 1943, cal. .30-06, w/ repro. web sling, Mk. II grenade in high explosive yellow (1930s up until entry into WWII), & tanker helmet made by Sears Saddlery Co.

M1 Carbine, General Motors Inland Division, Dayton, OH., 1943, cal. .30 carbine, w/ early web sling , mag pouch by Charlotte Tent & Awning, 1943, pre-1943 M1 helmet & MK II grenade ca. 1943-44, O.D. w/ yellow stripe.

M1, Winchester, rebuilt Rock Island, 1947, cal. .30-06 w/ web sling, M5A1 bayonet & M1 helmet as rebuilt in 1950s.

M14* (Armscorp receiver with all GI parts), cal. 7.62 NATO (7.62x51).

M16* (SP-1), Colt's Patent Firearms Co., Hartford, CT., 1964, cal. 5.56x45.

XM16E1* (NoDak Spud {board sponsor} lower, mostly GI other), cal.5.56x45, w/ M7 bayonet & M8A1 scabbard, M1 helmet with revesable ERDL pattern camouflage cover, green side out.

M16A1* (NoDak Spud lower, mostly GI other), cal. 5.56x45, w/ PASGT kevlar helmet w/ Woodland pattern cover.

M16A2-A3* (Armalite M15), cal. 5.56NATO, w/ PASGT helmet w/ 3 color desert pattern cover.

M4-M4A1 Carbine* (Bushmaster Patrolman's carbine), cal. 5.56NATO, w/ Army ACH kevlar helmet w/ Army UCP cover.

M16A4* (Bushmaster target model), cal. 5.56 NATO w/ Knight's M5 RAS, USMC lightweight kevlar helmet w/ reversable MarPat cover, desert side out.


First, there was Brown Bess. The Continental soldiers & the militia used whatever they could get hold of. Brown Bess captured from the British, French muskets captured in the previous colonial wars, whatever the various Committees of Safety, the states & the Continental Congress, could buy, beg, borrow, steal...or make. Then came the alliance with France, and the French Model 1763 musket, which became known here by the name of one of its manufacturers, Charleville, arrived in significant numbers. By the end of the war, the Charleville was the de facto standard infantry arm of the United States.


The Mle 1763 is a smoothbore, flintlock musket of nominally .69 caliber, with a barrel held by three barrel bands, and a lock with an integral iron flash pan. This example has not had the upgrades of 1768, and appears to have been made at the Manufacture Royale de Maubeuge, in Maubeuge, France. it is missing its sling swivels.
There was an arsenal system based on Philadelphia in place by the end of the revolution. It was capable of rebuilding muskets & manufacturing new parts. This system served the new United States into the early 1790s.
The need for a more permanent source of arms for the U.S. military resulted in the creation of the national armory system in 1795. Two government armories were created, at Springfield, Mass., and Harper's Ferry, VA. They were to produce rifles & muskets; specifically the goal was to produce a copy of the Model 1763 (Charleville) musket. Ther are no copies of the earliest Charleville type muskets in this collection. (The collecting community tends to call these Model 1795 muskets, but no such designation was ever used by the armories or the military.)
In 1798, the possibility of war with France arose. Contracts were let for additional muskets from private firms. One of the successful bidders was Eli Whitney, of New Haven, CT. Whitney already ran one of the largest manufacturing operations in the country at the time. Whitney bid on a contract for making 10,000 stands of arms (musket + bayonet =one stand) by 1801. He subsequently talked the War Department into funding the building of a new factory to make the muskets, the first of which were not delivered until 1803, the entire contract not being fulfilled until 1810. I guess you could call this the beginning of the military/industrial complex in the U.S.
Most of Whitney's 1798 contract muskets differed from the muskets being produced at the national armories. The first 500 or 1000 had iron flash pans, but the remainder of the contract, including this example, had inclined brass pans, and round faced cocks which were patterned after a newer model of French musket. The lock is marked U.STATES in an arc at the rear, and originally there was an eagle under the pan with the words 'NEW HAVEN'. This example has obviously seen hard wear & cleaning.


These Whitney muskets had several features which were introduced in later U.S. muskets. The national armories produced the Charleville type musket in four recognized variations between about 1799 & 1816. The variations resulted generally from a simplification of parts. This Harper's Ferry musket from 1815 shows the features of the last type of this musket produced there.


Note how the tail of the lock ends in point, this functioned to fix the lock in the stock. The Whitney lock does not have this point. The pan is of iron, integral to the lock, and is horizontal. the face of the cock (the side facing us) is flat, where the cock on the Whitney is rounded. HARPERS FERRY 1815 is in three rows behind the cock, and the eagle under the pan.
The eagle changed in form from maker to maker and over time. I have a whole book on nothing but the eagle on U.S. arms, pretty interesting, and something that has saved me from making a couple of purchases of muskets I might have otherwise bought.
While the armories were building their Charleville type muskets, another series of contracts were let in 1808, when Congress passed a militia act. The act required, among other things, that the Federal Government provide a certain number of muskets for the use of the state militias. Eli Whitney was given another contract in 1812, and again, his muskets were much different from the standard models being produced. Meetings were held beginning in 1812 to develop a standard type of musket which would improve on current models and be produced by both the government & private contractors. The musket that emerged owed much to the 1812 contract Whitney muskets. Collectors call these muskets Model 1812 muskets, though, again, the designation apparently did not exist at the time. Springfield produced four different types of what was supposed to be this standardized new musket from about 1816-1818.
Finally a new pattern was standardized, and it became the Model of 1816 musket. The most easily recognizable feature of this musket is the low comb on the stock, which brought the shooter's eye down more in line with the barrel. The Model 1816, which collectors call Model 1816 type I, was produced from about 1818-19 to 1822. Changes were made in 1822 which resulted in the the Model of 1822 (collector designation Model 1816 type II). This 1827 made Model 1822 shows some of the features :


The lock does not have the point to the rear, the cock is round faced, & the brass pan is inclined. The main external difference between the M1822 and the M1816 has to do with the rear sling swivel. The M1816 had the swivel mounted separately in front of the triggerguard, as with the Charleville type, above. The M1822 has the has the swivel mounted on the front of the triggerguard bow. The breach end of the barrel itself also acquired a squared off shape starting with the M1816. Note that the springs that secure the barrel bands are now in front of the bands instead of holding them from the rear with a pin. Additionally, some internal parts of the lock which were previously of iron were now made of steel. Also, this musket was originally 'browned'. The previous muskets were finished in polished metal 'armory bright'. I have to look up the dates, but I believe in 1822 the practice became to brown the metal of the muskets, and this continued through the mid 1830s, when they went back to finishing them bright. You can see traces of browning on the cock and the lock. The previous owner of this musket made a point of saying they had polished it up to 'armory bright':cry:. I didn't know any better until after I got it.
The next step was in 1828 when more modifications were made. Some of these had to do with gauging the parts. Each of these muskets is a general improvement along the line toward interchangeable parts & the 'American system' of mass production. The Model of 1822, with modifications of 1828 is known to collectors as the M1816, type III. Here is another Eli Whitney contract musket of this pattern:


Same general configuration as the last musket. The main external difference this time is again the rear sling swivel. It's still on the front of the triggerguard bow, but this time it's centered on the bow. If you look at the preceding musket, the swivel is mounted to the front of the bow. You can see more evidence of the browning here.
This musket is in such good shape because it's something of a cheat. It was converted to percussion, and in recent years, someone re-converted it to a flintlock. For those collectors who haven't ventured into flintlocks, reconversion is one of the great problems now in the field. Many percussion conversions are being put back in flint, and then sold as original flintlocks. This was sold by a reputable dealer who sold it for what it was. I wouldn't have known the difference at the time I bought it. I'm a little better at spotting them now. Some reconversions are pretty crude, but some are really well done. the barrel has to be welded up to cover the holes made for the percussion nipple, & that's where the skill or lack thereof comes in to the process. Original period parts were used to rebuild the lock. The prices of these kinds of arms, and the difference between original flint & reconversion merit a lot of study if you are thinking about getting into this area.
Ordnance began to be influenced by a newer model of French musket, the Model 1822. They made a Model 1835 U.S. musket which showed some influence from the French model, but it seems the M1835 was limited mostly to protoype examples. The Model 1840 was developed along the same lines, and produced by Springfield for four or five years, as well as by some contractors. Plans were already underway to adopt a percussion musket when the M1840 was introduced, so it was made with a view to being easily convertible to percussion. The changes in the 1835 & 1840 muskets were reversions to earlier ideas. They had higher combs instead of the straight, low combs that came on the M1816. They also reverted to iron flashpans instead of the brass pans formerly used. The Model 1840 below is another reconversion. I bid on this one when it was mislabeled, and paid a fair price for a reconversion. Model 1840s in original flint are uncommon, so this will do until someone drops one in my lap. Note that the pan, while separate from the lock, is near horizontal.

The Model 1840 was the last flintlock musket produced for the U.S. Army.
All through this period rifles were also made, but these were weapons for specialist troops. I've stuck with the muskets as they were the issue weapon for the bulk of the infantry.
The Model of 1842 introduced the percussion musket to the U.S. Army. It was very similar to the Model 1840 flintlock musket, except for the lock. It was, as before, a .69 caliber smooth bore. It wa also the first musket with completely interchangeable parts across all manufacturers. The M1842 was the issue weapon of the regular army in the Mexican War, and many of them served on through the Civil War. Several of them were rifled & given new rear sights in the 1850s. This example is still a smooth bore:



Springfield muskets were dated both on the lock & on the breech end of the barrel. Here the rack # 22 F is struck over the date. Model 1842s are not hard to find. I chose this one because it is in decent shape and has a pre-Mexican War date, as well as a neat, marked sling I will post a photo of later.
In the 1850s, armies began adopting rifled muskets, utilizing bullets with expanding bases developed by several inventors, most notably the Frenchman, Minie. U.S. Army Ordnance also became interested in an alternate percussion ignition system to the percussion cap which had been used on the Model 1842. They settled on a system designed by Edward Maynard which was a roll of paper tape impregnated with explosive material at regular intervals, which functioned very like caps in a toy cap gun. The Maynard tape primers were adopted in the Model of 1855 rifle-musket & Model of 1855 rifle, as well as being fitted to several types of older weapons which were converted for use with them.
This 1858 dated M1855 rifle-musket from Springfield has a brass nose-cap & no patch box. Later examples from both Springfield & Harper's Ferry have an iron nose-cap & a patch box in the butt.


These rifles could use either a standard percussion cap or the tape primer. This one has the feed device for the tape primer intact. It would advance the tape each time the piece was cocked.


The Model 1855 was the standard Army issue infantry weapon up until the start of the Civil War. So many types of weapons were use in the Civil War, with all the carbines, repeating rifles, and imported arms of all types then available, that this collection could quickly go astray (& quite broke) by venturing into them. So then, the U.S. Army still primarily armed its infantry with muzzle-loading rifle-muskets in .58 caliber, and that is what is represented here.
By 1861, the Maynard tape primer system had fallen from favor. The tapes themselves were found to be fragile & vulnerable to humidity, among other things. A move was made to eliminate the tape primer apparatus from the Model 1855. The result was the Model of 1861 Springfield rifle-musket.

The rear sight was simplified, the lock has the tape primer holder removed, but note the hammer is still arched to go around the space where the apparatus was. It still has the clean-out screw in the nipple bolster (which has been replaced by a modern screw in this example). Harper's Ferry, of course was captured & burned early in the war. That left Springfield to produce muskets. Several contracts were let to build Model 1861s. An entire collection could be based jut on them. Parker, Snow & Co. was one of the contractors, and they delivered all their muskets in 1863 & 1864.

In the crisis, both the Union & the Confederacy ordered all the arms they could lay hand son from Europe. All over Europe. Again, entire collections can & have been made just of European imported Civil War arms. One of these was imported in such numbers that it became a standard U.S. arm, and could be considered the standard C.S. arm, if such a thing had existed.
The British Pattern 1853 Rifle-Musket, sometimes called the Pattern 53 Enfield Rifle-Musket, was the standard British military musket of the day.

British government owned muskets were not imported during the war, but numerous makers in England built muskets to meet the U.S. & C.S. orders. Some makers used the crown and Tower markings on their muskets, but not the actual Birtish property marks. From Arms From Europe, by Whisker, Hartzler, & Yantz: "From the beginning of the American Civil War until July, 1863 the U.S. Ordnance Department would import over 505,000 Enfields. The Confederacy would purchase an additional 300,000 to 400,000 making the Enfiled the most numerous foreign arm imported during the Civil War." This example made by Wikinson Sward of London, shows the commercial proof marks common to these imported muskets. There are known Confederate contract markings, which this one does not have, but no known U.S. property marks.


As the Civil War began, Samuel Colt not only expanded his business to make all the revolvers he could, he was also in possession of a set of machinery to make the Pattern 53 Enfield. Colt had contracted with the British during the Crimean War to manufacture P-53s. I believe the war ended before he had the opportunity to deliver on the contract. Colt wanted to get a musket contract with the Army, but he wanted to be able to utilize the machinery he had on hand. Ordnance's requirement was that all muskets contracted for be completely interchangeable with the Model 1861 Springfield. Colt took a contract while suggesting changes to the issue musket. In reality, he cosmetically changed the Enfield to resemble the Springfield musket. The result was the Model 1861 Special Musket. Almost none of the parts of the Special Model 1861 interchanged with either the Model 1861 or the later Models 1863 & 1864. Three other firms made Special Model 1861s during the war.


Lamson, Goodnow, & Yale, of Windsor, VT. had inhereted the assets of a company which had gone out of business. That company had made P-53 Enfields for the Birtish during the Crimean War. First thing to notice on the overall photo of the Model 1861 Special is that the barrel bands are round in form & held on by screws, unlike the Model 1861 Springfield, which has flat bands held by band springs. Looking at the action, The Model 1861 Special has a flat nipple bolster, with another eagle on it, & without the cleanout screw. The hammer is of a different form. Compare the lock plate to the preceding Enfield & Springfield models, and you will see the pattern of the screws is the same as the Enfield, so all the internal lock parts are P-53, & not Model 1861. I think the hammer & barrel on this example are Colt made, so it's a parts piece.
In 1863, Springfield altered their production & adopted several of Colt's suggested changes. The Model of 1863 adopted the Enfield style bands, with screws & no band springs, a hammer similar to the Special Model 1861, and deleted the cleanout screw on the nipple bolster, making that part flat faced with an eagle. The internal workings of the lock remained as in the previous Springfield rifle-muskets, however.


A smaller number of contractors made the 1863 than the 1861. Alfred Jenks & Son, of Bridesburg, PA., near Philadelphia, made the musket above. They made both Model 1861 & 1863 muskets.
Most references refer to these as Model 1863 Type I muskets, & the following model as the Model 1863 Type II. I have seen documents from later on from Springfield Armory which list them as Model 1863 & Model 1864, so that is what I am choosing to call them.
Only Springfield, I believe, made the Model 1864. It retained most of the features of the Model 1863, but a decision was made to return to using band springs to retain the barrel bands. The middle band still had a screw for the forward sling swivel, but the other bands were now solid, though of the rounded shape. The locks were now color case-hardened.


This example has had the triggerguard bow modified to accept a more modern sling swivel. Springfield made around 250,000 each of the Models 1861, 1863 & 1864, +/- 25,000.
Numerous types of repeating rifles & carbines were used during the war. Springfield Armory did very little research into cartridge arms during the early part of the war as their job was to focus on producing as many rifle-muskets as possible for the crisis. Most of the repeating arms used in the war used cartridges with less power than the muzzle loading .58 minie cartridge. It was decided that the eventual breech loading rifle to be adopted for the infantry should have at least equal power to the rifle-musket. As importantly, the decision was taken to use as many parts as possible from all those rifle-muskets made during the war to keep costs down in the post-war period. The system eventually chosen was a conversion of the rifle-musket developed by Armory employee Erskin S. Allin. It involved a hole being cut in the breech end of the barrel with a 'trapdoor' mechanism to open & close the breech. The first version was dubbed the Model 1865. 6,000 of them were made in 1865-66 & used for troop trials.





The only parts made new specifically for the Model 1865 are the parts for the trapdoor mechanism, & the modified hammer. Many, if not most, locks on Model 1865s are dated 1865, suggesting that the most recent production was used, probably to ensure reliability. The rest of the rifle is pure Model 1861, the barrel on this example being dated 1862. The rimfire .58 cal. cartridge developed for this conversion was found to be inferior ballistically to the muzzle-loading round, and plans were put in hand to replace it.
The round that was chosen was the .50-70, which had a .50 caliber bullet backed by 70 grains of powder (now we'd say black powder). .58 caliber barrels were still utilized, but they were reamed out, & a .50 caliber tube was inserted.





The rifle was still made primarily of musket parts. The bands were now of the 1864 pattern. The trapdoor mechanism was changed, but was still screwed into the barrel over a hole cut in the breech. The same rear sight was used, but it now mounted backwards from previous. Note that this example has an 1862 dated lockplate, from a Model 1861, and that the trapdoor is now secured by two screws, instead of one. An eagle head and the date 1866 are stamped on the top of the trapdoor. These rifles were first used at the Wagon Box Fight in 1867. The Indians were used to the infantry having to reload after every volley, and met with a bit of a surprise when confronted by the new firepower.
By 1868, experience with the new .50-70 round showed that the barrel didn't have to be as long as the that of the rifle musket to get good results. A forged receiver to house the trapdoor mechanism was also adopted, being sturdier than previous. Initially, the .58 caliber barrels sleeved to .50 caliber were still used in the Model 1868, so the front of the receiver was made long to give a longer threaded surface to mate receiver & barrel.



Receivers & barrels were given serial numbers, on the left side, on this model, unlike previously. The shorter barrel meant that only two barrel bands were now needed. About halfway through production, the decision was made to use newly made .50 caliber barrels instead of sleeved ones. This example has a .50 barrel. The barrel, receiver & trapdoor mechanism, rear sight, hammer & ramrod are made for this model, the rest being surplus Civil War parts, with the stock being shortened. All the mottled areas are parts which were case-hardened.
With the adoption of the purpose built .50 caliber barrels, there was no need for the long front end on the receiver. A new, shorter receiver was designed. The new model 1870 used that receiver but was otherwise similar to the Model 1868. Model 1870s again had no serial numbers.


A commission was created to find better ammunition for military use, and it settled upon the .45-70 as the new Army cartridge. The new rifle for the .45-70, the Model 1873, was of much the same design as the Model 1870, & was first produced in 1874. It had a new lock, whose lock plate fit flush in the side of the stock.





Some of the stock furniture on early 1873s was surplus older parts, but generally these rifles were built with all new parts. The metal was now blued, and the receivers had serial numbers. Only early Model 1873 lockplates have the date 1873; most of the production had only U.S. Springfield. The 1873 went through numerous changes during its service life. This early Model 1873 has most of the features of the original production. One of them is the Model 1873 rear sight.
You will see references to Model 1877, 1878, & 1879 trapdoors, but there were no such designations. There were Model 1877 & 1879 rear sights, but the rifles fitted with these sights were still Model 1873s. The Model 1878 reference comes from a die which was used to mark the top of the trapdoor, during the production with the later sights. The die struck very deep and looks more like 1878 than 1873, but these are still Model 1873s.
The next new model was the Model 1884. It featured the Buffington rear sight, a very adjustable, target-style sight which would be basically repeated on the Model 1903. The tumbler on the Model 1884 had an extra position, so the hammer could now be pulled back to three different positions instead of two.


The last rifle in the trapdoor series was the Model 1888. It came about because supplies of the Model 1855 socket bayonet were drying up. The old musket bayonet had been used on all the models since the war, the socket being pressed down to fit the smaller diameter .45 barrels. Ordnance knew a new rifle design was coming, and they didn't want to restart production of an obsolescent bayonet design. So they used an idea that had previously been tried experimentally, the cleaning rod bayonet. Other than the bayonet & its fittings, the rest of the rifle was still Model 1884 & was so marked on the trapdoor.




 

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Absolutely beautiful collection. Thanks for sharing with us.
 

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Exceptional collection! Thanks for posting.
 

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I'm speechless...

That is the nicest, most appealing collection I've seen. Absolutely outstanding, congratulations!
 

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OMG! :eek:How am I going to sleep tonight... :angry:
 

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Discussion Starter · #20 · (Edited)
Thanks all for all the very nice compliments. I still have a ways to go on the descriptions, but it was quite fun putting the photos together. To bdome's question, the only place these are on display is right here, on GunBoards, which makes now the perfect time, ladies & gentlemen, to pick up the checkbook, or the gunpal account, and answer Vic's call to help keep this great place going. Only pennies a day can keep all the information and photos you so love right here, where you can find them. :) (I oughta get a job fund-raising on the local PBS station)
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?898-Site-help-contribution-info-here


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