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Hmm if we could just stop those endangered species birds from eating lead ammunition we just might be able to save the world!

As the great comedian Ron White said "You cant fix stupid"!
 

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One lesson here is that if you discover an endangered species of animal on your land, make it an extinct animal. Don't get caught however or you will have to face "Comrade Commisar of Political Correctnes"
This is just another example of the Goverment, abetted by it's "usefull idiots" defacto taking private property by controlling what you do upon it.
 

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They won't even do the math:

For every condor that can't make Nature's 'cut', it's likely to be other factors that decide this, NOT lead buckshot. The VAST majority of their diet is NOT hunter-shot animals/birds, it's just dead critters, plain and simple.

And the more telling question: If it actually IS the lead buckshot, then why haven't Turkey Vultures practically disappeared???! Same diet, same ecological niche. The liberals don't , and never will 'get it.'

Poot (living in the land of MANY Turkey Vultures)
 

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Tell'em thats why the old Warsaw pact used steel core ammo and sell them a Mosin and a case of Albainian.. problem solved everybody happy
 

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Tell'em thats why the old Warsaw pact used steel core ammo and sell them a Mosin and a case of Albainian.. problem solved everybody happy
I love it! Great come back solution.

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maybe we can train the liberals to eat lead buckshot? Keith
 

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maybe we can train the liberals to eat lead buckshot? Keith
Train them? Single celled microbes have a better shot.

Just TELL them it's good for them. Like they tell US that the S**T is good for us.

Just so you know, AZ buck shot hunters are encouraged to not leave any shot ridden carcus available to the condor. We do our part.

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And this crabbing about liberals helps the cause of gun rights how?

To state the obvious...there are lots of liberals with firearms (ask me how I know).

To be sure, the Democratic Party has stupidly made the "assault weapons" ban a seemingly permanent part of the platform (ask yourself how much control anyone has over party platforms other than party bigwigs). That said, most liberals I know are fine with firearms and many, many own them.

I agree that the California policy is stupid, at best. Do you think every liberal in California was begging for it to be created?

I just don't understand the conservative NEED to push away people who think differently. In the long-term this will only hurt your ability to own and shoot firearms.

Every friend on the left I ever took shooting loved it.

I have directed liberal friends to milsurp sites and, while they like the firearms plenty, the pointless political bashing has pushed them away.

Why not try to win people over, rather than push them away?
 

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The minute a Communist advocates private firearm ownership, he or she pretty much ceases to be a Communist, or of use to the Communists. It's one of those few things there is no middle ground on. Of course, I'm one of those people who is all over the tired old Left/Right, Liberal/Conservative map, politically...and there are more and more Americans like me every year.
 

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Who was talking about communists?

I hate to break it to you, but the number of people who actually believe in communism is pretty small and they are utterly unimportant.
 

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I say it is worth $49.95.

Oh, wait a minute, we ain't talking about an Astra Condor? Gee, why are we discussing California politics instead of firearms?
 

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Well, blast it, I've only got the one Spanish pistol, an Astra 400, but I'd talk about it all day long if you'd like. That is one sweet shooter.

I'd love an Astra built Ruby, but that is the subject of another post.
 

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With all due respect, Hammett, you don't know California politics very well.

We do, indeed have a strong contingent of Communists in our legislature. They are mostly bay area Democrats left over from the 1960s. They are supported by the moderate socialist Democrats from all over California. They are growing in strength, primarily due to the illegal alien support.

Did you know that California is experiencing a net outflow of Americans? Americans are being replaced by foreign, mostly Mexican, citizens. They are mostly uneducated poor people needing assistance, therefore they and their legal family members vote for the socialist Democrats, increasing the power of the communist Democrats. Pile on the teachers' union and firemans' union and California is being run by socialists and communists. It's pretty messed up out here.
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It's not about liberals and conservatives. It's about statists; whether they're liberal, conservative, communist, etc.; vs. freedom. If you support the state you oppose freedom, it's as simple as that.
Very generalized, but I'd say that about sums it up.

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Lead or steel shot doesn't really matter. You still have to spit them out when you eat them. That's why I prefer head shots.
So who does more harm? The enviromentalist who screws with the adults, chicks and the nests or the off chance a bird might eat a dead animal with some shot in it?
This crap has nothing to do with the animals, never has, never will.
 
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