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Does anyone know for sure what is the proper bayonet for an Italian 1870/87/15 Vetterli rifle? These are the Vetterli rifles converted to shot 6.5 Carcano during WWI.
I've heard conflicting stories as to which bayonet is correct for this conversion rifle for the WWI time frame. Several sources say the MODEL 1871/87/1916 bayonets are correct and that they were converted for these rifles during WWI. I've read these are the original long 1871 Vetterli bayonets cut down to around a 9" blade and also having their quillons removed. But then some sources say that they were cut down for the Spanish Civil War in the 1930's.
Does anyone know for sure? I'm assuming an unaltered 1870 long bayonet as well as a shortened 1871/87/1916 will both fit on the bayonet lug of these rifles?
Thanks for any feedback.
 

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Italian Vetterli bayonets

It is my understanding from previous postings on this board that the cut down bayonets were used during WW1. I have one of the long Vetterli bayonets which barely fits my converted Vetterli, as it is too tight. Bayonets were most likely handfitted in some cases. There are several variations on the cut downs and scabbards. It also appears, at least from my perspective, to be a little harder to get a good cut down Vetterli bayonet and scabbard than the long one. Have you tried the Italian Firearms forum or gone to oldsmithy.com from this forum. Carl has a very nice and growing collection of bayonets on display. I am sure more knowledgable folks will help you out here. Joe
 

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. Several sources say the MODEL 1871/87/1916 bayonets are correct and that they were converted for these rifles during WWI. .
This is the correct source. The cut edge of the long 1871 bayonet, was used to make the fighting knife for the assault troops "arditi" during the war. If you find the book of Clamandrei "Italian Bayonets" you can find it. I'm sure of this source.
Best regards from Italy!
 
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