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Didn't notice this until the discussion came up the other day that their were quite a few districts. I thought their was only one or two. Anyway this is on my byf 44 mauser and it doesn't look like a Russian capture X, it's more of a Roman Numeral X. If it is which district is it from and what does it mean?
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What Pisgah said Barqs. District markings are smaller as well.
 

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Ok thanks, too bad :( The Russian X's I always see look like the scratched it on there real quick. What other variations are there besides these two?
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These letter stamped soviet "X"'s as oposed to the crossed chisel mark "X"'s are another reason why I tend to go with the theory that the "X" is an abreviation for a russian word (forget how to spell it now) beginning with "X" that represents the word "Captured". This makes far more sense than the "X" representing a crossed rifle mark.
Below is a soviet captured P38 with a similar "X"
 

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I've seen this same X on FN 1922 pistols before. All the FN22 pistols I've seen with this marking did not have a import stamp on them. Do you think they were early imported Russian Captures??
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Bill's word he is looking for is хваченный (hvachennyj if translitterated), and this word more or less means "Sufficed".

The word Captured translates to захваченный (zahvachennyj).

Interesting theory. Perhaps...



 

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Thanks Vulch! I have it someplace in my rather odd filing system, but did not have the time to do the archeology to find it. I am told by Jan Baclar a noted European p38 collector that this is the accepted meaning of the "X" markings for collectors in Europe.

I see it this way...a letter stamp X could easily be seen to represent the abbreviation for the word хваченный, as also could be a chisel mark X also easily represent the abreviation.

But in the case of crossed rifles....a chisel mark might indicate a crude representation of crossed rifles, but the letter stamp X is not easily seen as representing crossed rifles.

I have always looked on the crossed rifles mark as more of a commercial marking like on the contract lugers, rather than an indication of capture.

At this pont it is all just theories...who knows the X may mean something totally different than any of the above.
 

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Bill, thanks for that P.38 pic.
 

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This type of "footed X" came up last year. I went thru all my pics back then and found several of the "footed X". Going from memory, they did not go with a particular factory and they were all on RCs. So the general concensus was that it is just a nicer X than normal.

Now if somebody could come up with a non-RC with it, then that might change things up. But for now, just a Eastern European worker with pride in his/her X.
 
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