[micmacman]

never seen one with this receiver stamping before,its not my rif;le i hijacked the pic off the web

anyone know wnything about the odd receiver crest?

 

[Radom1935]

Are you referring to "Erfurt" which is the Prussian Military Arsenal?

 

[AlamoCity]

I think he is referring to the stamp above the erfurt, that looks like the crown that is stamped above Spandau Gew98's - at least its on my Spandau G98.

If it is that crown with the small cross, maybe it was added later on during a refurb/upgrade. I see that it is 'S' stamped which would denote a 1905(?) upgrade to the spitzer round.

The Erfurt and date do look odd to me though. The font doesn't look quite right.

T

 

[micmacman]

Erfurt and date look fine to me,the stamp above it ive never seen on an 88 before though,the bolt was lined out and had a matching number restamped

 

[micmacman]

nevermind,i dug my erfurt out and it has the same marking,lol,,,,duh

 

[bobntx]

The rifle clearly does not have the 05 update, and that is not what the s means .

 

[Nick]

The rifle clearly does not have the 05 update, and that is not what the s means .

No? And what does "S" mean then? (Hint: what is spitzgeschoß and what is the first letter in that word?) And what exactly constitutes a 1905 update?

 

[micmacman]

i thought the receiver notch,stripper guides,and the magazine alterations took place in 05

 

[Vaarok]

Not necessarily the latter two. I've got two S-marked .323-bored non-turk '88s that still need packet-clips to load.

 

[Ike27]

I have an Erfurt 1889 with the "S" but original .323 barrel without any further modifications.

 

[micmacman]

lol,this is getting comical

first,,,Alamo didnt difinitively say that the S meant that it was a 05 upgraded rifle,he put the question mark right after the sentance

so knowone said thats what the S denotes so there is no argument there

then Nick posed the question to Alamo what makes a 05 upgraded and my 3 guesses were the stripper guides,receiver notch,and the magazine alterations which consisted of the enblock button release removal and the mag block insert installed

 

[Nick]

...then Nick posed the question to Alamo what makes a 05 upgraded and my 3 guesses were the stripper guides,receiver notch,and the magazine alterations which consisted of the enblock button release removal and the mag block insert installed

My question was 100% rhetorical and was addressed to bobntx. I know what was done when. Magazine alterations were not related to the "S" conversion, but to the change in loading. All this is described in detail in Hans-Dieter Gotz's book as well as in Paul Scarlata's book. Also in Eckard & Morawietz' book - if you can find it (I consider this one the primary source).