[johnsgonewild]

Hello, I need to speak with an m41b guru. I recently acquired one and have some urgent questions and concerns. at first I was pleased with it, but upon closer inspection I am beginning to question my initial judgement. I would post some photo's but I can't figure out how to do so.I have lots and lots of high quality photo's and will be happy to email them to anyone who knows about m41's. my email address is [email protected] if someone could please help I would be very greatful! Thanks for your time and consideration.


Merry Christmas!

John from Texas

 

[MJ]

Yu shouldn't have a problem because there are 1000's of experts out there.

..............................LOL..........................

 

[JIMMY C]

johnsgonewild,

Try the Swedish board also. Many experts there too.

It would probably be best to post the questions you have regarding your rifle. That would give us a starting point. Also check system help forum for assistance on photos. Really the only issue most have is photo size. photos over 300kb will not post using the board software.

Oh , by the way Welcome to the board!!

 

[johnsgonewild]

question

well I guess I would like an opinion on whether or not i should keep the rifle or ship it back. the mount looks as though a serial has been scrubbed off and another stamped. the top ring has a different 4 number mark on it, and the front of the deatched mount looks as though it may have been scrubbed as well as a 3 is evident. also i bought it as an m41b, yet there is no "b" stamped on the scope adjustment dial. i'm working on the photo's they should be available later this evening.......... thanks for your reply.

 

[johnsgonewild]

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this is aggrivating! i want one like yours....pristine and correct, and it seems as though there is no where to get one... no matter how much you are willing to spend!

 

[JIMMY C]

johnsgonewild,

Did you get yours from Samco?

They are the only known "source" for these rifles.

Photos would be very helpful.

Here are a few photos of one of mine.

 

[johnsgonewild]

yup

yes sir i sure did.... i went on ahead and "rolled the dice"

 

[johnsgonewild]

YES!!!

WE HAVE PHOTOS!!! took me forever to figure that out.... now i feel kinda dumb... it was easy!


Ok... please look closely at the two serials on the mounts. on the rifle mount... well you tell me... sure looks like it was scrubbed then restamped.


I have numerous photos inside and out... just tell me what you guys need to see.

 

[johnsgonewild]

wow

Wow! jimmy... That is absolutely stunning! see that is what I want! Ya know its christmas....hint hint! just kidding! beautiful rifle... puts mine to shame!

 

[MJ]

Like the man said your story has no answer without pictures. Your asking people to sort strawberries over the phone. I looked at one early this month in San Jose that was very nice but the best part after being miss matched and very clean was it shot very well.

Now have you shot it?

 

[johnsgonewild]

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yes i have, and i was'nt real happy with the results. the bullets dont really chamber all that smoothly, and the action is kinda rough, i was shooting some Swedish ball surplus too, so it wasnt the ammo. with the iron sights it shoots to the right. at 100 yards i shot 8 inches to the left to score a center shot. with the scope, well i dont think its calibrated very well or something because at 100 yards... well its way off. now I think that the ajack 4x90 should be zeroed at 300 meters right? so that could account for the vertical, but i was having to put the aimpoint about a foot or so under the target just to hit it. furthermore the screws on the upper rings were really loose and after about 3 shots i had to tighten them back down. also the screws were "buggered" when i got the rifle, which leads me to believe that some kind of snafu took place with the scope. I just don't know what to think......



P.S. MJ thats a fantastic speciman that you have there as well.... i just wish i would have been born about 5 years earlier so i could have got in on the samco "golden days" if ya know what i mean... I fear that i will never have the pleasure of owning a superb example, of in my opinion the best sniper ever made...... the m41.

 

[raul]

Each and every time I see the pics of the swedish sniper I rememeber when mora than ten yrs ago there were plenty of at SAMCO, I went there many time, bought the Persian gun and other pieces and always felt that US$ 1200 were too much for the swedish, now I regret-=

 

[johnsgonewild]

yup

I think that we are S.O.L. Raul..... oh well.

 

[Perplexed]

You know, SAMCO isn't the only game in town for m41B's. With patience and perseverance, you can find excellent, matching examples - there was a nice one for sale on Gunboards a few months ago. They also turn up now and then on Gunbroker, Auction Arms, gun shows, and even at gun/pawn shops. Sure, you'll likely pay top dollar for one, but unfortunately, that's the price we late-comers and procrastinators pay.

 

[johnsgonewild]

true

You are right, unfortunately I believe that to be the only option. OK can anyone give me an opinion on the mount that i posted, is this thing good or bad it seems that there was a pre existing # that was scrubbed then re stamped to match but maybe that was done at the arsenal refit...... but unfortunately I am no expert in the field of jackenroll mounts, ajack scopes, or m41's. That is where you guys come in. I have a short time to send it back, so any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

 

[capnduane]

M41b

Yes, the serial # on your base was scrubbed at some point in time. However, the font on the base and mount are the same. Many M41 parts were recycled when these snipers were converted into M41bs. We see scrubbed numbers, overstamped numbers, on lots of Swedish Mausers. Also, towards the last of the M41b sniper program, the Swedes did not bother to keep all the various non critical parts matching. If your sniper has a matching bbl, scope mount and bolt/parts, you are probably as good as your can get from Samco at this point in time. You can certainly send the rifle back for an exchange, I think you need to contact Samco first, however. Can you post some more pics of your rifle, so we can get a overall look at it? Here's the two M41b Oberndorf snipers I received from Samco back in 2005. BBls, mounts, bolts, and scope cans match, rest of parts do not. They are both superbly accurate. Dr Johnny Fever shot a 3/4 in 5 shot group, at 100yds, with one of them the first time he shot it. So, don't give up, do what you have to do to get your rifle right. Get it fixed, or send it back, whatever, because years from now, they will not be available except at great cost. Oh ya, btw, I'm no expert, I'm still just a pert.

 

[jgaynor]

Considering how long Samco has catalogued these rifles (and the prices) I'm amazed they have any left at this point.

 

[johnsgonewild]

thanks

Thanks Cap, so the scrubbed serial on the base was more than likely done at the arsenal? if thats the case then i'll probably keep it. I put a boresight on it and it was way off, so i zero'ed that in so it should be alright. also all of the numbers that matter match, so i guess i'm in good shape. like i said i was really just worried about the "overstamping".


Here are a few more photo's i'll take an overview later for ya.


Oh yeah Merry Christmas!!!!

 

[Mike Hull]

yes sir i sure did.... i went on ahead and "rolled the dice"

Samco was the sole importer of Swede snipers starting about 30+ years ago. Unfortunately, they are now at about the bottom of the barrel. They put them together from existing parts and hope for the best. I don't believe the people doing the assembly work have their heart in it either. Many mismatched parts. As long as the bolt, receiver, barrel are matching, you "should" be OK. Scopes will rarely match, and didn't on the originals.

Unless you find a good one from a private party, it's just pays your money and takes your chances. How does it shoot, or have you had time to try it yet?


Edited to add: Sorry CapnDuane, I posted before I read your post.

 

[capnduane]

Very interesting!

The red in the disc recess in your stock is interesting. Barrels that were found to be not servicable had the disc removed and the recess filled with red wax, or paint. The rifle was then removed from service and either sold off or rebarreled. I don't think I have ever heard of a Swede sniper with the red wax. How is the bore in this rifle? Is the stock serial# matching?