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I saw a small assortment of Lugers in a gun shop. Most were prices over 2,000 which blew me away! I know things are nuts right now. What caught my eye was a 799 price tag. I picked up the gun and if I remember correctly it was labeled as a "Russian capture". The numbers and marking were sanded down and some new numbers were re-stamped. It had a dark black finish. Not glossy. It was blued, not painted. My first reaction was revulsion, but; I can see how it might grow on you. And it was 1/3 the cost of the unmolested Lugers.

Anyone have a opinion on these, one way or another? Is it right to call this a "Russian capture" Luger?
 

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They are not that bad... Akin to the RC K98's.... Sorta like the redhead stepson.........

An old friend who was an FFL bought several when they were about $399 each and they worked well for wjat they were.....

I was at a show like 2 months ago and a fella had a RC Luger priced at I think $900, while I was at his table I saw another buyer balk at the price....Said this used to be like $400 or somesuch.....

When I did my 2nd round in the show a few hours later the Luger was gone at the dealers table, I asked him about it and told me it sold with not too much fuss.....
 

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All of the Russian captures I have personally handles displayed Force matched parts, horrible over buffing and then the strange and quite ugly blue was applied.
 

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When the Russian captured Luger first came on the market there were some that were advertised as "all matching". I ordered 2 of those. Both were "all matching" without be FORCED! Except for being dipped blued, the bores being on the rough sides and the grips really bad, they a great shooters.
 
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When the Russian captured Luger first came on the market there were some that were advertised as "all matching". I ordered 2 of those. Both were "all matching" without be FORCED! Except for being dipped blued, the bores being on the rough sides and the grips really bad, they a great shooters.
I have a Russian capture P38 that is really nice it has the Russian dip blue finish barrel is excellent all numbers match I would imagine many of the lugers would be the same. I wonder how many the Russian have saved in storage. With the 98k snipers and G and K 43 rifles.


Some great pics here:

 

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Of 3 or 4 Lugers I've had, my Russian Capture is the only one I still have. Mine is 'all' matching except the sideplate, and it's a great shooter. I love the diagonally-grooved black grips.
 
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Every time i see the mention of these it reminds me of the ones being sold at "Fast Eddy Fausts" Old Sacramento Armory on "j" street. When they were first up for sale crowds of buyers crammed in the small showroom. Sales guys would bring out maybe 10-12 all held together on a padlocked steel cable and place them on the counter to be pawed over. When all were sold another "string" was brought out. I do not remember if it was $175 or so per but they sold fast. The joke was they were refinished by the Russians while still on the string.
 

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I have one, good shooter. They don't make them anymore, so it will go up in value.
Yep. I have an RC that is all matching except the toggle. The locking bolt spring was worn out. Once I replaced that, it runs reliably with 124gr ammo.

I paid $1100 two years ago. And would gladly buy it again. No regrets.
 

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Had 2, one functioned great, a 1942 one, second was a 1918, redo Vopo east German gun (but a Russian capture) would shoot 16 rounds and then start to hiccup. Had to take it apart and clear it up as per Wilsons 1981 American rifleman article and then it ran like a clock with the correct 124 grain NATO Loads. Like the RUAG ammo in particular or M882.

Wilson's article pretty much has all you need to know to make the luger run, thought the editors dropped out his data on the length of the complete 9x19 cartridge. Same is true of the 7.65 luger, I note the Swiss lugers handle the Swiss RUA white box 7.65 luger quite well, the slightly shorter Fioochi 7.65 luges jams a lot.
 

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Have seen badly refinished ones that have been CerroKoated. When carefully done these look great in pics but wonder how the thick coating affects function. Last one i saw have brought well over 1K.
 

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I too prefer the vopo, as they were made to be shootable, russian capture are not the same, but I've had a couple, always shot well.
To older collectors they didn't give them much care, but as years have gone along, they are worth more than just a mismatched shooter.
 

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I don't specifically collect Lugers, but I will buy one if the price and condition are right. I currently have three, 1916 Artillery, 1920 Police and a 1937 S/42. Trouble is, all are in original condition and have matching numbers. I would very much like to find one like a RC or VOPO that I could use as a shooter where I wouldn't have to worry about breaking a numbered part or degrading the finish.

If I was looking at that particular gun, I would offer them $750 OTD and see what they say. If they say no, I'd try $800 OTD.
 

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I bought one from SOG in the 90s. It was a matching original finished upper. The frame had been renumbered the sideplate was a cast replacement. It wasn't a bad looking gun. However it would only fire one round. It would cycle and load a new round but wouldn't fire it. It was like it wasn't cocked. However if you hand cycled and loaded a new round by hand it would fire one more time. It was nice enough looking I didn't want to return it. I wanted to fix it. First I found a different trigger and filled on the sear a little and got it shooting. Later I found a matching side plate and changed that out. what I thought was odd was after getting the new side plate I tried putting back my original matching number 10 trigger. But it wouldn't work I had to put back my mismatched number 15 trigger to get it to work right. Now it shoots fine but I never felt the need to buy another Luger after all that work.
 

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When the Russian captured Luger first came on the market there were some that were advertised as "all matching". I ordered 2 of those. Both were "all matching" without be FORCED! Except for being dipped blued, the bores being on the rough sides and the grips really bad, they a great shooters.
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Like wise. Mine shoots perfect is all matching, but has an import mark at the base of barrel- very small. It was like $300 or a few bucks more. I got this in the 90s and no longer remember. Great barrel, matching.
Some were rebarrled mix masters, others intact finish & matching- to my knowledge all had import marks on the ones sold around 1995??? If I can find it I may post photos? I have not used in in 15 years. It came with one mag, and I do not remember if it has an X or not???
import mark at red arrow
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RC liger in this video:

If matching, with a mag and even if an import mark & X I'd grab it if cheep say $700
 
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