[kf4zra]

I ended up getting this pistol today and i wanted to gather some more info on it. who made it, what its called, what it may be worth, etc.

i need to find a grip screw for it. without knowing what the gun is, i cant find parts.

it does seem to have a waffenampt on the right side.

thanks in advance
John

 

[Nick]

The name is written on the slide - "Unique".

 

[kf4zra]

i know unique is a manufacturer, but wasnt sure if that was the manufacturer's name, or a model.

 

[Teddy]

I think, this thread could be of help.
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=70293

 

[Poot]

That's nice John, good find!

 

[DudleyDR]

My "picturebook" for ID refers to the same exact pistol as the ""Kreigsmodell" (War Model), which incorporates changes made by the Germans - an exposed hammer and that humpback grip. My book has the same slide and grip logos and really does not resemble a Model 17 at all. There was a .22 LR copy of the pistol called the "Ranger". DDR

 

[Denny]

John, here's a little more info for you. Your pistol was made at the Manfacture d'Armes des Pyrenees in Hendaye France. The company started making Elbar Ruby-Type pistols in 1923 and sold them under a bunch of different names including Mars, Ebac, Demon, and Unique. Begining in June 26th, 1940 under German occupation they manufacured around 56k of the model 17. They then produced a modified Kriegsmodell until the factory was liberated in 1944. The Germans purchased around 25k of the War Model. Congrats on your cool new pistol. Denny

 

[Slyhuntr]

Empire arms has one listed.

Here is a pic link: http://64.82.96.51/108208.jpghttp://64.82.96.51/

His description: MOROCCAN Model Rr51 semiautomatic pistol (.32 ACP) mfg. just after WWII by Manufacture d'Armes des Pyrénées, Hendaye. Basically a pistol of the time-tested "Ruby" design with exposed hammer.

 

[Michael Jon Littman]

John,
Try posting this on the French forum as you may better responses regarding its history and value. This might sell well at the Lakeland show later this month. As to value. I reckon prices might be around $200 at the Lakeland show, perhaps a but less, but the German markings might attract someone who might pay more. I could be wrong on values but that is what I would expect to see this priced at in Florida.

 

[rocker98]

One thing is for sure. The Waffenamt code is correct for the pistol. That's if that is a poorly stamped "0" at the end, and not a "C" Looks to be a poorly stamped "0" to me.

WaAD20 - -Manufactures d'Armes des Pyrénées, Hendaye, Frankreich (Unique pistolen)

 

[Clay]

For the grip screw Eugene Medlin would be a contact if not a source for this part. He is THE expert on French small arms. You can reach him through NAPCA or The Military Rifle Journal.
Clay

 

[kf4zra]

thank you all for the fast responses. looks like i need to track down mr Eugene Medlin.