[BRussell]

I'm wondering if Obama and his Admin will do a head-fake the first year of his administration and not sign or request a ban on American made AWs. Sure, I can see an EO on the importation of said firearms, but with the massive recession/depression that is upcoming, it could be **possible** that he would rather not repeat the Clinton 1994 mistake of biting off more than he can chew and, as in the past, get gun-owners pissed off at him and cause him to lose congress in 2010.



Just a thought.

 

[GhostCat]

I'm wondering if Obama and his Admin will do a head-fake the first year of his administration and not sign or request a ban on American made AWs. Sure, I can see an EO on the importation of said firearms, but with the massive recession/depression that is upcoming, it could be **possible** that he would rather not repeat the Clinton 1994 mistake of biting off more than he can chew and, as in the past, get gun-owners pissed off at him and cause him to lose congress in 2010.
Just a thought.

Plus the Gun Industry is FLOURISHING right now.....why would he destroy a flourishing industry during economic hardtimes???......
ah hell, what am I thinking....OF COURSE he will ban American made AW's his first year...
Anything that holds over 10 rounds is gonna be Attacked with extreme vengence......Import or Made in the USA.......and the Magazines as well.....

 

[Hambone]

"massive recession/depression that is upcoming"? That assumes alot, negatively speaking. Because the news media says so? That garbage is interested in scaring people and sensationalism. Because financial pundits say so? It's not going to be as bad as the scare.

As for attacks on the Second Amendment, those will be as bad or worse than the scare and within the year. The "news media" will spin some gun crime and scare everyone and so it goes. A flat economy and some unemployment will increase crime. There's the justification.

 

[BRussell]

Plus the Gun Industry is FLOURISHING right now.....why would he destroy a flourishing industry during economic hardtimes???......
.....

Uhmmmm...because he's a Socialist? How's that for a come-back?

 

[mcgoo422000]

All this talk of DOOM , Name a gunfriendly president
since Reagen ? We have survived and will continue to
do so . I would look closer at US firearms makers for
instigating import bans .
I've always heard bill ruger had his hands in the first awb .
mcgoo

 

[thebohunk]

Hey BR, you are dead on with that reply! He's a socialist, and therefore, insane. Insane people will destroy multi-million/billion dollar industries to suit their kook, fringe constituents. (Or themselves, whichever comes first)

Perfect example of this is Al Gore, who in the 2000 campaign suggested we should tax gas to $5 a gallon(back when it was $1 a gallon mind you) so that no one would buy SUVs! Not to mention shutting down the automotive aftermarket to appease the greenies. A quick look at any hot rod mag will show that almost NO hotrod parts are available for sale in California. Folks like that would do the same for the whole country. But remember, democrats/insane people, are for the working class!!!!!

 

[jdub]

Probably

That sound like a good observation. A ban is comming. When, I don't know. NO lessons were learned. After Obama gets in there will end up being a big school shooting, knee jerk reflexes will happen, badda bing! There ya go.... We have people like Jesse Jackson standing outside Illinois gunshops leading protests claiming the gunshop is responsible for communitiy gun violence. Common people, you know as well as I do Dems can't diffentiate law abiding gun owners from criminal. All they know is its the guns fault... Does anyone catch my drift when I say they got to get something done while there not doing nothing. Its about change people, CHANGE!

 

[jdub]

Shewww

All this talk of DOOM , Name a gunfriendly president
since Reagen ? We have survived and will continue to
do so . I would look closer at US firearms makers for
instigating import bans .
I've always heard bill ruger had his hands in the first awb .
mcgoo

Oh boy, where to start with you.... Well gun friendly, no, no, you missed the whole target bud. We are talking an agenda here with Hussein and cabinet. An agenda...

 

[jdub]

Thanks

"massive recession/depression that is upcoming"? That assumes alot, negatively speaking. Because the news media says so? That garbage is interested in scaring people and sensationalism. Because financial pundits say so? It's not going to be as bad as the scare.

As for attacks on the Second Amendment, those will be as bad or worse than the scare and within the year. The "news media" will spin some gun crime and scare everyone and so it goes. A flat economy and some unemployment will increase crime. There's the justification.

As always this guy hit the bulls eye. Your a fine moderator, not like alot of feelgoodist duech bag moderators I know from other boards.

 

[cousinkix1953]

I've always heard bill ruger had his hands in the first awb .
mcgoo

You're right. He went off about banning high capacity magines in one of those monthly publications that we get. Don't remember which one it was though. Maybe you can search for "Ruger interview" on those publications' websites and find it again...

 

[jjk308 In Memoriam RIP]

81 Democratic members of the House were elected from districts that voted for Bush in 2004.

How many of those seats does the Democratic Party want to lose in exchange for passing the completely useless, except for symbolism, Assault Gun Ban?

Assuming they aren't totally stupid it will just stay in the talking stage, used to delude the gun ban idiots into supporting Obama and the Dems while keeping it off the House floor and keeping those seats safe for Democrats. Like the feeble Bush promise to sign an AGB extension while the Republican Party beat it down.

Of course this assumes they're not totally stupid! The typical politician having the attention span of a mayfly we need to keep beating on them, to stop them from forgetting how easy it is for them to lose.

Write your representative and senators NOW! Tell them that if they OR a majority of their party votes for the AGB you will support their opponent in the next election. Don't be fooled by the usual caucus vote swapping that keeps seats safe by engineering passage of bills with tiny margins.


http://origin.barackobama.com/issues/urban_policy/#crime-and-law-enforcement
http://www.change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy_agenda/

Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn't have them. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

 

[sgtsavage210]

I don't know what BHO might do. I do know there will serious threats to our 2a rights at the state level. Often these measures fly under the radar because state issues don't get the same coverage as the national ones. I belong to Grass Roots NC. If there is an similar organization in your state join if you are not already a member.

I am much more afraid of attempts to get at our ammo supply than I am of silly AWB. I shoot a lot of ammo.

 

[catsnguns]

There will be a AWB proposal as well as gun show loophole etc. proposed. There are usually several dozen major gun control bills put up every Congress. These either die a quiet death or on standby waiting for an event like a school shooting or political momentum to propel them to the front. The thing to do is several fold. First wait until the new Congress is sworn in the first part of January and then send your Congress people a short but reasoned note on the subject. This is especially true if your person(s) are new to Congress. Second join a gun rights organization of your choosing. NRA, GOA, JFPOSA or what ever floats your boat. I know there are a lot of members here who don't like some of these or all these organizations but they have clout and the more members and the more money they have the more influence gun owners have. After all it is money and votes that matter. LAST GET OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED!!!
Since the Obama victory I have heard so many people say I am going to buy ammo or a pistol or a rifle or that Obama is going to ban all guns. While this is good it is unfortunate as all this anger and worry and gun buying isn't doing us any good off the surface. I have numerous students who say Obama is out to ban all guns but don't really know how or why. I was on a trip to Virginia this past week with a group of other teachers and while eating one evening the subject came up out of the blue but no one said anything about stopping it. Yesterday I was in a gun store looking at at an Enfield my wife found while picking up one of my Chritma presents. In comes a former principal who is surprised to see me. He says he is there to buy a handgun before Obama bans them all. Well fine but why don't you get involved to stop it.
The problem with all this feeling is that much of it is misunderstood and actually sets us up to fail when mr. Obama strolls in and in a careful photo op makes it clear that your fud guns and handguns are not suppose to be banned and while being disengenious splits the movement again. I have my pistol, rifle, or shotgun and they are not coming to my door to get them so I'm safe and not concerned all over again.
PARDON MY LONG WINDED RANT.

 

[EricOKC]

It will come only after there has been a well publicized shooting using an "assault rifle."

Abdul Obama will state that it's time we "changed" from being a gun culture, to one where placing youth in the equivalent of the "CCC" will bring them discipline, and no longer want to kill people.

 

[limpetmine]

Reagen, gun friendly? NOT.

All this talk of DOOM , Name a gunfriendly president
since Reagen ? We have survived and will continue to
do so . I would look closer at US firearms makers for
instigating import bans .
I've always heard bill ruger had his hands in the first awb .
mcgoo

Reagan was the president that signed the bill that banned further registration of machineguns. He did a lot of good, but this was REALLY bad. He should not have signed that bill. We've lost most of what was in that bill, that was good.

 

[limpetmine]

[email protected] straight

I've always heard bill ruger had his hands in the first awb .
mcgoo

You bet he did. Which is why I bought my last Ruger 20 years ago. He was all for "sporting" rifles, and despised the Mini 14. For a number of years, he wouldn't sell hi-cap mags for them.
He helped write the first AWB, and got the Mini-14 off the list. He wanted to sell more of those oh-so useful single shot M77 POS's. I have read that for a while, too, when someone would send in their registered Mini-14 fullauto, they would return a new semi- rifle, and say the original was beyond repair. After much problems doing that, they have stopped that practice.
Bill Ruger was out in front on the anti-black rifle parade. Having an anti in the business gave the whole movement the pretence of legitimacy. I hope he rots in hell.

 

[CDFingers]

By NOT doing any firearms legislation (very hard for him to do), O could guarantee a second term and likely a dem pres in 2016. Don't bet on it. dems are incapable of planning to win--this one was a fluke due to the Palin fiasco.

CDFingers

 

[RuralTurtle]

I have read that for a while, too, when someone would send in their registered Mini-14 fullauto, they would return a new semi- rifle, and say the original was beyond repair.

I'd be curious where you read that. I know of several AC-556 owners who have sent their legally registered rifles in for repair and/or rebuild to Ruger and had no problems.

Not to mention Ruger would be opening themselves up to all kinds of liabilities by doing something like that.

 

[Petrov]

By NOT doing any firearms legislation (very hard for him to do), O could guarantee a second term and likely a dem pres in 2016. Don't bet on it. dems are incapable of planning to win--this one was a fluke due to the Palin fiasco.

CDFingers

You think Palin actaully hurt the ticket? I think we would have had a double digit win for Obama and a filibuster proof senate before any of the run-offs without Palin on the ticket.

 

[mcgoo422000]

You bet he did. Which is why I bought my last Ruger 20 years ago. He was all for "sporting" rifles, and despised the Mini 14. For a number of years, he wouldn't sell hi-cap mags for them.
He helped write the first AWB, and got the Mini-14 off the list. He wanted to sell more of those oh-so useful single shot M77 POS's. I have read that for a while, too, when someone would send in their registered Mini-14 fullauto, they would return a new semi- rifle, and say the original was beyond repair. After much problems doing that, they have stopped that practice.
Bill Ruger was out in front on the anti-black rifle parade. Having an anti in the business gave the whole movement the pretence of legitimacy. I hope he rots in hell.

My freind vonmanure claims to have personally pissed on rugers grave
and want own one for same reason .

everyone seems to forget how many of the black rifles already exist .
Does anyone think everyone is just going to register or turn them in ?
that may work wel in places like nj, ca. ct and place where
residents "bend over regularly" for the goverment .
don't think it will work very well down south ? Maybe "molon Labe"

Maybe obama will have his hands fulll for a minute ? or realize gunowners are
a good size voting block .
mcgoo