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Gus,
The reproduction fuze for the Ottoman boom thing has arrived! Thank you very much, it is very well done indeed. I enclose a photo of it nestling with its accompanying grenade among some other new arrivals. (I guess I could have wiped the table off first, sorry). Oh, and thanks for throwing in your 15 pfennings' worth, very generous. That's the kind of advice we can all use:)


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Yup, I don't think the handle is in as good a shape as the one trenchwarfare showed here once. All the WWI bits except the Turkish are Italian or Austrian from the last (before yesterday) AGM catalog. The three from WWII, near the top, are from elsewhere.
 

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Nice work Gus. Why do all you aged farmers, with machine shops have to live so far away? Slather that fuze in cold blue, and it'll turn black. Then you can take some 0000, and brighten the edges a bit. I personally, would ding it up a bit first. T, I think your paper handle is better than mine. When mine arrived in the mail, the handle was stuffed inside the grenade body.
 

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Hey Trenchy,
I used a product called "super blue"on mine to darken it a bit and then rubbed most of it off, if I took the time, I could make it look more used, but it seems to ft in with my grenade.

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Gus
ps Tplan's fuse needs to be shiney to match his plastic reproduction grenade:)
 

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ps Tplan's fuse needs to be shiney to match his plastic reproduction grenade:)
As soon as TW mentioned bluing, I could see that comment coming. Gus, yours looks great!
 

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Someone asked about sources for studying & collecting ordnance in a PM to me. I hope I'm not making public anything that shouldn't, but I thought the best place to list sources might be right here. Gus & trenchwarfare have taught me quite a bit in a short time about grenades, and JPS with his article linked above. Most of the books I have on ordnance in general are pretty run of the mill, but I'll look then when I get a chance and post some here. I think everything I know about hand grenades I learned on the internet. (now there's a sentence to ponder) Here are a few of my most visited sites:
http://www.paul-spence1964.com/
http://www.inert-ord.net/
http://www.millsgrenades.co.uk/
http://members.shaw.ca/dwlynn/tgrm.htm
I have more on my old computer, but I'm still retrieving things from it since it started throwing fits a while back.
Everyone please add books & other references. I'm looking forward to learning stuff here.

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You guys have some marvelous stuff and I am truly in awe of some of the stuff collectors on these boards come across. What is the red tinged aluminum? grenade in the first photo?- Also, Tplan or Trenchwarfare, is the inscription on the Ottoman Grenade religious or a model designation?
 

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Hey Boot leg
I believe that the SCRM35 is aluminum, but I have not handled any of the newer grenades, so I am just going on what I have read. the inscription is not Arabic, it is Turkish, and the script was abolished by Attaturk after WWI, so it is one of the scripsts that few people can read.
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Yes, the Italian 'red devil' grenades have aluminum cases, & a great deal going on inside. You can read about them here: http://www.inert-ord.net/italrd/index.html
The 'crumbs' on table in the picture are actually part of the inside of that SRCM that has corroded away.

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I've been crying in my beer about this one for a while now. I've put it here because you can see the 'before' picture above. I thought I had my collection pretty well secured. Living on the East Coast, earthquake-proofing never really entered my thoughts. Remember the much-publicized Virginia earthquake in August, which drew many guffaws from our left coast friends? I didn't even feel it, but I was outside doing yard work at the time. All of my neighbors, though, came pouring out of their houses, talking about shaking. No one was hurt, and, seeing no damage, it wasn't until much later I checked the gun room, and found the ammunition collection had taken quite a tumble. Luckily, the damage was limited to three objects. A gunstock was bruised, a glass WWII item was damaged but not destroyed, and this happened to the rohr-granate:


A 7,5cm Pak 40 round fell across it, so it's fortunate the damage wasn't greater. Live and learn.
 

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Yes, Memo, the Turkish grenades are very interesting. I am sure that Tplan's grenade is made of plastic, although some think it may be an example of the alloy grenade, mine is cast iron, and came from an antique shop in California, where it was sold as an antique Arabian oil lamp body. Tplan's still has the transit plug in it, and for all we know, may still be full of explosive:) I have seen a couple of flat plugs that were drilled for a fuse hit the market on Specialist auctions but I only know of one original bras fuse body like the ones I had made, and my copies were copied from the one in the Imperial War Museum in London.
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