I did not enjoy sent on a Polish PA-64 and a Davis derringer in 32 ACP. The PA-64 was uncomfortable to shoot and the Davis trigger was so hard to pull it almost wouldn’t shoot.
Guns you DO NOT miss and were glad to get rid of.
Did not know where to put this, but this forum seemed the best fit...kinda.
OK, my friends, we all talk about the guns we had to let go of and lament their passing from us, but now...(drum roll please)
But now, how about the guns you had and were quite happy to get rid of.
Mine were two civilian handguns.
The Colt Trooper and the PK 380 auto made by S&W but shamefully carries a Walther banner on it.
Colt Trooper. Solidly built and had a nice thick barrel...but...
Shot way to the left with anything but 158 or heavier bullets. Also...shaved lead out the sides horrifically. Noticed this when I saw what it did to a cheap spotting scope I used. Almost sand blasted it on one side.
Next, this &*^%% of an autoloader called a PK 380. Felt really good in the hand, but did not even get through one mag without two stoppages. Then the magazine fell out of the gun. Yes...fell out! Then when it hit the ground it kinda exploded with base plate going one way, spring going another, and the ammo spilling out all over the place. Karl Walther turned over in his grave, I am sure. Pure junk.
OK, your turn, what duds did any of you have the misfortune of obtaining.
No shame, it happens to all of us at one point or another.
Dave
OK, my friends, we all talk about the guns we had to let go of and lament their passing from us, but now...(drum roll please)
But now, how about the guns you had and were quite happy to get rid of.
Mine were two civilian handguns.
The Colt Trooper and the PK 380 auto made by S&W but shamefully carries a Walther banner on it.
Colt Trooper. Solidly built and had a nice thick barrel...but...
Shot way to the left with anything but 158 or heavier bullets. Also...shaved lead out the sides horrifically. Noticed this when I saw what it did to a cheap spotting scope I used. Almost sand blasted it on one side.
Next, this &*^%% of an autoloader called a PK 380. Felt really good in the hand, but did not even get through one mag without two stoppages. Then the magazine fell out of the gun. Yes...fell out! Then when it hit the ground it kinda exploded with base plate going one way, spring going another, and the ammo spilling out all over the place. Karl Walther turned over in his grave, I am sure. Pure junk.
OK, your turn, what duds did any of you have the misfortune of obtaining.
No shame, it happens to all of us at one point or another.
Dave
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44 sp charter I just got..
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Do you know what's crazy ? People actually collect those cheap Rhom and RG revolvers. I hate to admit it but I collect cheap little 25 autos. I have a Sterling, Raven, and Excam. And they go for $200 plus.I once did a multi-gun deal that came with a Rhom .38 revolver. I couldn't get rid if it quick enough, lest is infect my other revolvers.
I had one, the trigger pull was horrible. I should have kept it, it was a Grey Ghost.Wait, since this is a handgun forum, I'll change that. Walther P-38.
What was the issue with it/them?44 sp charter I just got..
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LOL! Sorry about the rifle, but that expression is hilarious!…a POS Century Yugo M76 build that would swallow a field gauge like it was empty…
You’re supposed to wear an Egyptian headscarf while shooting it. I swear, I have the hots for this thing. I’m about ready to up and move to whatever state the next Hakim seller is in. No, I’ve never shot one. I used to walk past them at gun shows and shake my head. YouTube has now brainwashed me.I had one too and hated how it blew my hair back every time I fired it! Good riddance!
I suppose, like cilantro, they just don’t appeal or suit some people. Mine is pleasant to shoot and accurate (well, at 10 yards, a reasonable confrontation distance).Ksaw, great to have your vote the Ruger LCP P.O.S. There are a bunch of losers and the LCP is definitely on the S-list.
Perhaps it was in another thread I mentioned mine. I bought a .44 Special Charter Arms DAO for concealed carry. I hated that the hammer would finally trip at the last 0.0001” of travel. So many times I thought it wasn’t going to fire. Then I got a Charter Arms .44 Special Bulldog (DA/SA), which looked great and seemed fine for the first 35 rounds. After that the cylinder became progressively harder to turn as I thumbed back the hammer. By round 50, it almost didn’t turn into position. After cleaning, all was normal, although it didn’t have any more fouling than any other revolver. Maybe it was the materials used or some break-in issue. I don’t know. I sold both at a big loss a year later - I think I got $125 for the both of them from the same place I bought them (new). I don’t miss the somewhat ugly DAO, but I probably should’ve given the other one a chance - so, slight regret.… a Charter Arms product of some sort.
When the Glock 21 first can on the market, I bought one. On my way home from taking the Glcok 21 to the range for its initial test shoot, I traded it in on a SIG P220. Best trade I even made and I haven't owned a plastic frame handgun since then.
Early in my days with guns some friends and I went in together to get a batch of various milsurp handguns for about 100 each. I ended up with a cz50 that had the longest softest slowest worst trigger ever. I was glad to get my 100$ back out of it..if I did.
Well, Charter Arm's, I suppose it depends on which iteration you stumble across.
AFAIK, there have been at least 3 "rebirths" of the brand, at least one of them produced total junk, right from the get go, although the others had their issues, as well.
The current offerings are at least (mostly) usable, although I did have a .22 snub nose that was so unfinished, internally, that it felt like sanding with 80 grit on rusty metal.
No amount of smoothing or polishing did much to improve it.
It went on down the road.
The .44 Spcl. model I have now is much better although it does seem to gunk up internally fairly quickly, as has been mentioned.
It is not the most pleasant revolver to shoot but a good set of aftermarket grips helped there, you still will not be sending long strings down range.
In the end, though, it does carry easy (for a bulky revolver) and the 240 grain semiwadcutter, even at moderate velocities, is hard to argue with as a showstopper at self defence ranges.
AFAIK, there have been at least 3 "rebirths" of the brand, at least one of them produced total junk, right from the get go, although the others had their issues, as well.
The current offerings are at least (mostly) usable, although I did have a .22 snub nose that was so unfinished, internally, that it felt like sanding with 80 grit on rusty metal.
No amount of smoothing or polishing did much to improve it.
It went on down the road.
The .44 Spcl. model I have now is much better although it does seem to gunk up internally fairly quickly, as has been mentioned.
It is not the most pleasant revolver to shoot but a good set of aftermarket grips helped there, you still will not be sending long strings down range.
In the end, though, it does carry easy (for a bulky revolver) and the 240 grain semiwadcutter, even at moderate velocities, is hard to argue with as a showstopper at self defence ranges.
Kind of brilliant on the "which of my children do I love the most?" side, if the transaction costs are not extremely high.I am experimenting with a new method of determining which guns to keep, and which to get rid of. Step 1. Sell all your guns. Well, maybe not all, but a sizeable portion 2. Wait 90 days. 3. Ponder which guns over which you have seller's remorse , and which you do not think about much at all. 4. Buy the guns you really miss. I really miss my Krag and my Savage Model 99. The rest I can do without.
I guess I've been a disciplined collector, because the regrets here are few enough that I already know which were mistakes.
i've had good fortune w/charter,but from the very beginning i could not bring myself to partner up w/a plasic gun. also i did not think it was beautiful. which is a consideration w/women and guns. seller regret ?? i have some of that,too much to pin one down
i like davis derringers,early ones,y'know the small ones ,i sent my .25 back(extracter ?) they fixed it-- mid 80 s -- and sent it back,gratis. i still have a .32I did not enjoy sent on a Polish PA-64 and a Davis derringer in 32 ACP. The PA-64 was uncomfortable to shoot and the Davis trigger was so hard to pull it almost wouldn’t shoot.
One came into shop. Brand new in box. Would hang up. Found with metal chips in action. Still rough after cleanout.The Taurus "Judge" is the one I will never regret selling. Inaccurate, lousy customer service and one step above a junk IMO.
Sigma SW380. Just awful. Awful, even for a sigma. The one chambered in 9mm was even worse.
Sigma SW380. Just awful. Awful, even for a S&W sigma. The one chambered in 9mm was even worse.
Early browning 25’s acp
firing pins “ hawksbilling”.
sticking it in face..
chambering a round, letting slide go slide!
fixed firing pin resulting in full auto dump on clips.
fixed a few..
firing pins “ hawksbilling”.
sticking it in face..
chambering a round, letting slide go slide!
fixed firing pin resulting in full auto dump on clips.
fixed a few..
Actually just remembered another one that I was glad to see the back of.
That one was an Interarms import stainless steel PPKs in .380ACP.
It was sold as "used" but was complete with box and all papers and accessories.
I doubt if it had a full box of ammo through it when I bought it.
I soon learned why.
Functionally it was perfect, no problems of any sort but the machining on the frame was so precise that after a mag or two of ammo it would slice the web of my thump and palm, like a deep paper cut.
I tried aftermarket grips, shooting gloves and all sorts of other remedies, no joy.
The thing needed a full on de-horning but I just could not bring myself to take a file/stone to such a beautiful pistol.
It lived with me, as a safe queen, for a year or two, until I sold it for more than I paid and used the proceeds to buy a more worn in version.
So, there is an example of a gun that was sold off, not because it was junk but because it was to finely machined for it own good.
That one was an Interarms import stainless steel PPKs in .380ACP.
It was sold as "used" but was complete with box and all papers and accessories.
I doubt if it had a full box of ammo through it when I bought it.
I soon learned why.
Functionally it was perfect, no problems of any sort but the machining on the frame was so precise that after a mag or two of ammo it would slice the web of my thump and palm, like a deep paper cut.
I tried aftermarket grips, shooting gloves and all sorts of other remedies, no joy.
The thing needed a full on de-horning but I just could not bring myself to take a file/stone to such a beautiful pistol.
It lived with me, as a safe queen, for a year or two, until I sold it for more than I paid and used the proceeds to buy a more worn in version.
So, there is an example of a gun that was sold off, not because it was junk but because it was to finely machined for it own good.
I recently purchased the 32 H&R Mag Charter revolver. I really like it, altho it did have to go back to the factory when it completely locked up after 50 roundsned a Charter Arms product of some sort.
I'm sure it is just me, but except for superb semi-auto .22's - I have NEVER had a Ruger I could shoot well. (And I've owned a bunch !).I really wanted a Ruger P85 pistol in 9mm when they first hit the market and everybody was lusting for one, when I finally located a brand new specimen at a gun show in the late '80s. I also purchased a Sauer & Sohn model 1913 pocket pistol in .32 ACP at the same show and headed to the range as quickly as I could. What a let down! The little S&S 1913 was more accurate with its short barrel than the big, chunky, and awkward to manipulate P85. I then realized that I had fallen for all the hype surrounding the P85 and got rid of the Ruger boat anchor as fast as I could but still have and occasionally still shoot the model 1913 pocket pistol. To make matters worse, in order to help finance the P85 purchase, I sold a 1950's vintage Springfield M1 Garand and still kick myself to this day for my stupidity.
I had a refinished MIL Browning High Power. Look over the sights, start the trigger pull and the entire slide wonks clockwise! Sold that one before long.
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