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I went to the Pgh. Gun show,and the prices people are asking for junk and a few nice pistols and rifles are through the roof. I came early to the show with a pass to help my friend, a-gun parts guy. I was carrying a SVT 40 (Finnish) to show a Friend, and I was stopped by at least a dozen guys (mostly dealers) who offered me what I thought were stupid prices…….2000 .2300 (A lot of $ for dealers to offer!) I hid it under the table until I left……Is this because of no gun shows during COVID or people flush with money. It appears to me that a lot of people who are buying are DEALERS or COLLECTOR!Is. Is the supply of good items only with collectors and dealers?
 

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I think part of it is the inflation that the Demosocialists say we don't have. Another reason is people looking at the asking prices in online auctions not paying attention to the details such as condition and how many years the sellers has been trying to sell the same gun over and over. Then there is the perpetual "vest pocket dealer" who knows just enough to sound inteligent but has no clue what the market is. He gets his pricing from others like him at the show during set up on Fridays.
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well, when the mil-surplus market dried up completely, which tons of people thought it never would, the only ones out there who have mil-surplus are all in private hands.....and they're not going to sell them for bottom prices knowing they ain't coming in by the freight cars full any longer, and there still a demand of them with people willing to pay their asking price........in other words; it's a seller's market :)

has nothing to with democrats/republicans/ green men from outer space.....it has to do with supply and demand
 

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I went to the Pgh. Gun show,and the prices people are asking for junk and a few nice pistols and rifles are through the roof. I came early to the show with a pass to help my friend, a-gun parts guy. I was carrying a SVT 40 (Finnish) to show a Friend, and I was stopped by at least a dozen guys who offered me what I thought were stupid prices…….2000 .2300. I hid it under the table until I left……Is this because of no gun shows during COVID or people flush with money. It appears to me that a lot of people who are buying are COLLECTOR!Is. Is the supply of good items only with collectors and dealers?
Nowadays, 2000 to 2300 for a decent Finn captured mixmaster SVT 40 is regarded as a good deal. A very good deal on GB.
 

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I think that may apply to all gun stuff. A different market up here but beat up ("hunted with") Marlin 30-30 with old Weaver scope selling for $1,000. Any Mosin 38 or 44,$700 or more regardless of bore condition.k31's $900-$1,000 ( if I offered one for $700,it would be sold before I got up from the computer).Lee Jungle carbines $900+ no matter how beat up. Same same for ammo, reloading supplies.75 cents a piece for Federal 308 brass (once fired). The kinda stuff if I picket up at the range, i reload once for my HK770 and leave the brass wherever in the world it lands.

So I guess you can sell your guns if you are sure you are never gonna want to have that particular piece again in the future.Me, I'm keeping all mine. Sorta reluctant to shoot some of them now that they have become so valuable.

Strange days for sure.
 

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Nowadays, 2000 to 2300 for a decent Finn captured mixmaster SVT 40 is registered as a good deal. A very good deal on GB.
Alas... part of the reasoning behind my post from yesterday. Our hobby has become collectables... and I know Im singing that same tired song. But hey... I pass it forward when I can. Money is not everything in life. Younger people, younger fathers and mothers... single parents cant afford these things normally any more. If you can... I say pass some forward to those who you deem worthy. Keep our hobbies, our tools, our freedoms in the hands of the average person.... just a thought.
 

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If we all paid normal going-rate retail for every gun we own we’d never have more than a handful….. but realistically I do think 2k is a “good deal” on a Finn SVT these days. Most of us don’t have a drop of Finnish in our veins, but the story of the Winter and even Continuation wars are heroic enough that most all of us would like to own a Finn rifle (or two, or twenty.)
 

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If we all paid normal going-rate retail for every gun we own we’d never have more than a handful….. but realistically I do think 2k is a “good deal” on a Finn SVT these days. Most of us don’t have a drop of Finnish in our veins, but the story of the Winter and even Continuation wars are heroic enough that most all of us would like to own a Finn rifle (or two, or twenty.)
Yes, they beat the Russians in the Winter War……..Which was no small thing!!
 

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I think that may apply to all gun stuff. A different market up here but beat up ("hunted with") Marlin 30-30 with old Weaver scope selling or $1,000. Any Mosin 38 or 44,$700 or more regardless of bore condition.k31's $900-$1,000 ( if I offered one for $700,it would be sold before I got up from the computer).Lee Jungle carbines $900+ no matter how beat up. Same same for ammo, reloading supplies.75 cents a piece for Federal 308 brass (once fired). The kinda stuff if I picket up at the range, i reload once for my HK770 and leave the brass wherever in the world it lands.

So I guess you can sell your guns if you are sure you are never gonna want to have that particular piece again in the future.Me, I'm keeping all mine. Sorta reluctant to shoot some of them now that they have become so valuable.

Strange days for sure.

re the Marlin,

since Remington bought Marliin, any JM gun went up in price,

and since Remington went bankrupt, and Marlin being bought from the break up by Ruger, almost any Marlin has gone up

ditto 700's and the assorted Rem Shotguns,
 

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Alas... part of the reasoning behind my post from yesterday. Our hobby has become collectables... and I know Im singing that same tired song. But hey... I pass it forward when I can. Money is not everything in life. Younger people, younger fathers and mothers... single parents cant afford these things normally any more. If you can... I say pass some forward to those who you deem worthy. Keep our hobbies, our tools, our freedoms in the hands of the average person.... just a thought.
It's a nice sentiment, but the simple fact is that guns are market-driven commodities governed by laws of supply and demand. You could hold that SVT-40 back and save it to pass on to a younger relative, but that's only going to mean market scarcity that drives the prices of SVT-40s further upward. It might seem outrageous to pay $2,000 for an SVT, but there are people out there willing to pay $3000.
 

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It’s a sellers market for sure, ammo or guns in any condition. Our hobby has become collectibles but you can’t defend your home or family with Beanie Babies or a lightsaber in the unopened box.
Thankfully, viable defense options are out there for la lot less money. $200 can get someone a Mossberg Maverick shotgun or even a Hi-point pistol. Under $300, the options become much more numerous.
 

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It's a nice sentiment, but the simple fact is that guns are market-driven commodities governed by laws of supply and demand. You could hold that SVT-40 back and save it to pass on to a younger relative, but that's only going to mean market scarcity that drives the prices of SVT-40s further upward. It might seem outrageous to pay $2,000 for an SVT, but there are people out there willing to pay $3000.
Depending on condition, $3,000 could be a fantastic deal for a SVT 40.
 

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i have been down sizing my milsurps for the last year or so that i had several of at very good prices(all vg-ex condition). if we had known how high they would go and bought cases of them for well under 100.00 per rifle, we would be well off today.
Don't disagree with sentiment, but....there is not to my knowledge a good definition of what "engaged in the business" means which would require an FFL. At some point of time, I believe BATF will push some test cases for individuals selling "modern firearms" (post 1899) at shows without license or background checks. If they get some convictions, I suspect it will happen more and more often.
Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you.
From this standpoint, in spite of liberal lies about uncontrolled gun sales, there are FAR more restrictions on gun sales than other used items. In addition, I'd guess BATF could interest the IRS (who are not above political prosecutions and manipulations themselves) to joint the case as such individuals not paying required taxes.
 

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If we all paid normal going-rate retail for every gun we own we’d never have more than a handful
speak for yourself, except for a very few guns, every gun I own I paid whatever the going retail rate for them were, some I paid a lot more then the retail going rate......but it all worked out because those guns are now priced in the stratosphere ......and I have a lot, lot more then a "handful" :LOL:
 

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has nothing to with democrats/republicans/ green men from outer space.....it has to do with supply and demand
Sfc:

In my opinion you are completely, utterly, and entirely incorrect in your assertion. Progressive politics and their affect on ”supply and demand” are directly, intimately, and causally related.

Saying that the anti-gun political forces have not caused market restrictions and at every opportunity made firearms ownership more onerous and more expensive is like saying that drinking a bottle of vodka didn’t cause the wicked hangover you experience after doing so.
 
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