Got my K98 yesterday and put 10 rounds througt it. It shot good, but I can't get the saftey to turn. My Dad had sayd that the saftey rides in a groove and can sometimes slip out. He also said the you can very carefully file the botten down a small (and I mean small) bit. Any one else have this happen and how did you fix it?
Got my mauser! Question about saftey
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The other commonly seen possibility here is that you are trying to apply the safety with the gun uncocked. The wing safeties on Mausers only work with the rifle cocked.
I am sorry if this sounds a little basic, but others have posted this same problem here and did not know this.
Krag-Jorgensen wing-type safeties CAN be applied with the striker down, but those is the only rifles with wing safeties that I know of that can do this.
I am sorry if this sounds a little basic, but others have posted this same problem here and did not know this.
Krag-Jorgensen wing-type safeties CAN be applied with the striker down, but those is the only rifles with wing safeties that I know of that can do this.
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I almost never use a safety. The best safety is an open bolt. If you are ready to shoot, close it and shoot. If not, leave it open. At the range, if anyone goes downrange, the bolt comes out. Never seen a gun fire without a bolt.
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In well over 30 years of shooting, I have not ONCE ever used the safety, nor have I ever deemed it necessary. Was taught NOT to use it.
At our range, all rifles MUST be racked, bolts open between rounds anyway, so the safety really is NOT in the Australian shooting ethos at all. We just open the bolt
At our range, all rifles MUST be racked, bolts open between rounds anyway, so the safety really is NOT in the Australian shooting ethos at all. We just open the bolt
Last question depends on what you consider reasonably accurate. If you got a group with your 10 rounds, as opposed to a "splash", a REALLY basic rule of thumb would be to double the group size per 100 yards. A 3 in. group at 100 will be 6 in. at 200 etc. (more or less). Almost everybody here is a shooter who can hit a man sized target at 600 yds on any given day with any given rifle. I would say you should be able to scare the *** out of anything you shoot at at 200.
If the rifle itself groups well, after you shoot it a couple thousand times (with good practice habits) you'll be a 600 yd shooter too. Not trying to be flip or funny, but nothing makes a rifle shoot better than practicing with it.
If it "patterns" instead of groups, for at least 3 different shooters, then there are a dozen potential problems from muzzle crown to ammo. Don't let me get you too far off the point though, one thing at a time.
What kind of group did you get?
If the rifle itself groups well, after you shoot it a couple thousand times (with good practice habits) you'll be a 600 yd shooter too. Not trying to be flip or funny, but nothing makes a rifle shoot better than practicing with it.
If it "patterns" instead of groups, for at least 3 different shooters, then there are a dozen potential problems from muzzle crown to ammo. Don't let me get you too far off the point though, one thing at a time.
What kind of group did you get?
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Such a rifle in good condition, with a good shooter, and good ammo, can shoot out beyond 500 yds depending on the target. No way is such a rifle limited to 100 yds except by the shooter and ammo. The sights are not ideal for most but the rifle can usually do very well.
On the safety, I was taught to never rely on them as they can fail. If the shooter practices basic firearms safety, they are rarely needed IMO and as others have reinforced. No need to mess with the rifle and its safety unless you know you must rely on the safety(many hunters think they must have a chambered round, etc.).
On the safety, I was taught to never rely on them as they can fail. If the shooter practices basic firearms safety, they are rarely needed IMO and as others have reinforced. No need to mess with the rifle and its safety unless you know you must rely on the safety(many hunters think they must have a chambered round, etc.).
I wouldn't really call it a group. it was all over the lower left of the target. Granted I was using factroy ammo and not the hand loads I want to use. As a rule, I look at the cases when I pick them up and on these I found the primers hand backed out on all 10. I know I need to adjust the frount sight since it is way over to the right. I think it's just a matter of finding what works best. When I get all the stuff in to do hand loads, I'm going to chronograph them.
As far as the safety is concerned, if it's not a problem, then I won't worry about it. My CCW pistol does not have a safety and I bought it just for that reason.
Have the headspace checked.
Hold on though, what brand of factory ammo and how old was it?
Old US manufactured stuff is way underloaded due to bore size issues on older rifles.
Old US factory ammo will impact very low at 100 yards whereas standard milspect stuff will impact high because of the 300 yard sights on most K98's.
I have seen this myself, including the backed out primers on old hunting ammo on a rifle that is fine, headspace wise, and that has fire hundreds of sulplus and reloaded rounds through it.
Hold on though, what brand of factory ammo and how old was it?
Old US manufactured stuff is way underloaded due to bore size issues on older rifles.
Old US factory ammo will impact very low at 100 yards whereas standard milspect stuff will impact high because of the 300 yard sights on most K98's.
I have seen this myself, including the backed out primers on old hunting ammo on a rifle that is fine, headspace wise, and that has fire hundreds of sulplus and reloaded rounds through it.
Sorry for the lag time in responding. I've been working alot.
Whinchester new factory ammo. Louis(my husband) had had a hard time with their primer pockets with .223. Granted, most factory ammo we've shot we have had problems with.
I'm sorry, I may have misunderstood, this rifle is chambered in 8mm Mauser, is it not?
I have not seen any "new" 8mm ammunition from any US manufacturer in many a year. There is some "left overs" from years past but not new stuff.
Also, what, exactly, do you mean "had a hard time" with the primer pockets on Winchester ammo?
Generally speaking, backed out primers are considered a bad thing but the reasons for that condition can be all over the map so it sometimes takes a bit of effort to figure out what is causing the condition.
I do, however, recommend that shooting should stop until the cause is found and corrected.
I have not seen any "new" 8mm ammunition from any US manufacturer in many a year. There is some "left overs" from years past but not new stuff.
Also, what, exactly, do you mean "had a hard time" with the primer pockets on Winchester ammo?
Generally speaking, backed out primers are considered a bad thing but the reasons for that condition can be all over the map so it sometimes takes a bit of effort to figure out what is causing the condition.
I do, however, recommend that shooting should stop until the cause is found and corrected.
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Truly, but the safety should still work, if for no other reason than to allow bolt disassembly.In well over 30 years of shooting, I have not ONCE ever used the safety, nor have I ever deemed it necessary. Was taught NOT to use it.
At our range, all rifles MUST be racked, bolts open between rounds anyway, so the safety really is NOT in the Australian shooting ethos at all. We just open the bolt
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For bolt disassembly reasons you could use the table top method of pulling the cocking piece back. Bolt disassembly is not a reason id file any matching k98 parts for. Even if it is just a matching bolt.
It is 8mm Mauser. My Dad bought it for me earlier this month at a Carter's Country in Houston. What I mean by "a hard time" is that with some of his Winchester brass, he found the primer pockets either too small, or so large that after a primer is in, all he has to do is gently shake the case and the primer falls out.
We had chronographed factory ammo in the past and found huge varriation in FPS in the same batch.
Come to think of it, it was factory stuff that bent the operating rod in the M1 Garand I got him.
What I plan to do is not to use the factory stuff anymore. When I ger the dies, brass ans bullets, I'll load my own on the low end and see what happens.
Just to add....Thanks to all of you who are replying to my posts. Y'all have been, and are a big help.
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