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Hi guys,
I've heard of s.,z and n.m. markings on 88's but how about v.? This appears on a '91 date Danzig rifle (under the 98 of the unit marking). Any information would be appreciated.

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Hi Andy,
Good to hear from you. I don't see any other markings on it that might suggest Czech ownership. Did the Czechs use a lot of these ? Have a Merry Christmas.

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Hello Len, czechoslovak owned for Guards only for short time any G98, some of there was probably G88, but i dont know about using later, maybe the unit could bring more info? is near czechoslovak border?
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Hi Andy, The unit marking indicates a regiment from Metz in the province of Lorraine which is fairly distant from the old Czech Republic. The Metzer Infanterie-Regiment Nr.98 took part in the Battle of Meuse-Argonne against the Yanks. It might be a real bringback.

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That is a really interesting siderail regimental. Is your Gew 88 matching? If yes, what are the regimentals on the other two bands?

I was looking in Jeff Noll's book, and really don't see a match for this one. What is it?

98th. Regt.Ersatz.Depot.4th Komp. 44th waffe = 98.R.E.D.4.44.

Is this your take on the meaning. Cool regimental!

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Hi George,
The only other regimental is a cancelled one on the lower band 136.R.R.252.(4. Lothringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr.136).They were headquartered at Strasbourg in Alsace. This rifle apparently migrated from one of the disputed provinces to the other. I agree with your reading of the 98th's unit marking. All the metal parts on the rifle match however the stock is internally marked with a different #. Here are some pics.

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Nice piece certainly as both regimentals are from Alcace it could be a french stamp? or other post war stamp, by reworked or replaced barell it could be a acceptance stamp, but it would be visible. is not this case. best regards,Andy
 

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This 'v.' marking could be an in-house Danzig marking to signify something, or possibly a depot applied marking. I have a '90 Danzig with a 's:' marking on the siderail in the same location (see first image). This one is depot matching, has the bolt serial overstamped to match. I have a friend with another '90 Danzig (d block) that has 'e:' on the siderail.

FYI, Danzig Gew98's are known for having random unknown letters within the rightside receiver inspection markings (see second image), and the '90 Danzig in the first image has a random 'n' in this location.

Also, the period following your 'a' suffix letters can be indicative of a period reworking, I have noted reworked Imperial and TR era arms using this (no clue as to meaning, it just shows up on some period reworks).
 

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Hi George,
The only other regimental is a cancelled one on the lower band 136.R.R.252.(4. Lothringisches Infanterie-Regiment Nr.136).They were headquartered at Strasbourg in Alsace. This rifle apparently migrated from one of the disputed provinces to the other. I agree with your reading of the 98th's unit marking. All the metal parts on the rifle match however the stock is internally marked with a different #. Here are some pics.

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That is a super 88! I have two that match, but not as lucky as you with a matching bolthead too!

Both units have recruit / training regimentals. Both in Alsace-Lorraine region. I wonder what arsenal did the repair work for the units of this region?

I have a Gew 88/05 1895 Danzig. It has an X stamped on the side rail to the far left of the Gew. 88 stamp in the identical place as Len & madboy's rifles. I have never found a meaning for this stamp as of yet.

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Len S

That is a really interesting siderail regimental. Is your Gew 88 matching? If yes, what are the regimentals on the other two bands?

I was looking in Jeff Noll's book, and really don't see a match for this one. What is it?

98th. Regt.Ersatz.Depot.4th Komp. 44th waffe = 98.R.E.D.4.44.

Is this your take on the meaning. Cool regimental!

Geo
Geo,

i think you are right. In the book "Handbuch deutsche Waffenstempel" is the meaning oft "R. E. D." exact that what you said... only their are no "kompanies" in the examples...

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Len: I greatly appreciate your starting this thread and bringing these markings to our attention. I would note that in my collection I have an 1890 Danzig produced Gew 88 with a "Y." stamped to the lower left of a "E.20.94." regimental marking positioned to the left of "Gew.88." on the left receiver rail.

In following these postings and other comments by George appearing in the Commission Rifle forum, I am interested in preparing a short not on these markings for submiossion to The Military Rifle Journal. Might I have your permission to use the photograph in your lead posting in such an article? I have no doubt that these marks would be of interest to a wider audience.
 

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Len: ...Might I have your permission to use the photograph in your lead posting in such an article? I have no doubt that these marks would be of interest to a wider audience.
Sure thing Plevna go right ahead. Thanks to everyone for chiming in per my query.

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Madboy357: Greetings from Louisville right down the river from you! I am currently preparing a short article for submission to "The Military Rile Journal" on the topic of supplemental side rail markings on Danzig produced Gew 88 rifles. Might I have your permission to use your photograph of the Danzig receiver for inclusion with this article? Based upon the information I have thus far compiled, the known letters used for these marks include: “E”; “K”; “M”; “O” (or zero); “P”; “S”; “V”; “X”, and “Y”. Numbers include "6" and "8". I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks! -- Plevna
 
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