GEW 98 1916 DWM Berlin production #'s
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As far as Gew 98s go, '16 DWMs are fairly common. SimsonSuhl can give you exact numbers, but I seem to come across them often. You have a very nice looking rifle though, and a high serial number. Could you do some more pictures?
I agree. Along with being the go to guy on all that is Simson he is also an excellent source for G98 production information. Would suggest the following Sticky in this section as a great starting point for your research: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?855-Gew98-Research
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Thanks, yes, trends work shows DWM/1916 to be a big production run, - actually across the board for all makers. Danzig the highest by far, but both Spandau & DWM made it to the "kk" block. DWM may have passed it, as the highest known is in the 9000 kk block.
PM is right regarding surviving numbers, DWM/1916 is one of the most common observed, but any quality Gew.98 (Imperial) is desirable.
More pictures would be helpful, the right receiver, stock markings if the stocks matches.
PM is right regarding surviving numbers, DWM/1916 is one of the most common observed, but any quality Gew.98 (Imperial) is desirable.
More pictures would be helpful, the right receiver, stock markings if the stocks matches.
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So that's almost 370,000 made in one year? 1,000 a day ain't bad.
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....very nice turncoat. how are the stock cartouches?
88, I admit to not knowing where they should be located. I do see what I regard to be a crown stamped in the wrist of the stock behind the trigger guard but have not been able to get a good photo of it yet. The sunlight is scarce here at the moment.
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Good pictures, DWM assembled, but if the stocks right side (buttstock) doesn't have a cypher, then it is most probably an replacement stock. (ordnance spare). Do images of the buttplate and right side of the buttstock? Does it have a take down disc? DWM is a most unique maker at this time frame, taking their own path with how they added the take down, replacing the disc, and use of two piece stocks.
While yours probably will not be revealing in this regard, trends show that DWM must have had a lot of stocks on hand, as it took sometime to implement both the take down and grips, - longer than most others. Typically the grips show up first, then the take downs start (fairly uncommon in 1916 production) but DWM/1916 typically have neither, even very late in 1916, Further walnut stocks show up more readily than with other makers. Which contrasts with the use of “manufacturer original” two-piece stocks, which also show up in 1916 (only two cases).
Your rifle is very late, only a few have been recorded this late with "original" stocks. I have been trending "original" stock variations for some makers, DWM in particular, as they are slated for my next project (Ludw. Loewe II). If you can, snap some pictures of the right side of the buttstock and buttplate. This will tell if it has been through a depot or if the stock is manufacturer original.
While yours probably will not be revealing in this regard, trends show that DWM must have had a lot of stocks on hand, as it took sometime to implement both the take down and grips, - longer than most others. Typically the grips show up first, then the take downs start (fairly uncommon in 1916 production) but DWM/1916 typically have neither, even very late in 1916, Further walnut stocks show up more readily than with other makers. Which contrasts with the use of “manufacturer original” two-piece stocks, which also show up in 1916 (only two cases).
Your rifle is very late, only a few have been recorded this late with "original" stocks. I have been trending "original" stock variations for some makers, DWM in particular, as they are slated for my next project (Ludw. Loewe II). If you can, snap some pictures of the right side of the buttstock and buttplate. This will tell if it has been through a depot or if the stock is manufacturer original.
I will add the photos requested tomorrow. All of the numbers do match with the exception of the firing pin which was missing when I acquired the rifle 25 years ago. Incidentally the bore in the gun is very good. Thank you for the information and your interest.
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All matching with the firing pin missing? Could this be a bringback or one of the war trophy rifles?
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most likely. i think its pretty common for gew98s to have missing or snipped firing pins. my all matching 1916 amberg has a snipped firing pin.
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With no pin how do you have the matching cocking piece?
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You have a very nice Gewehr, the condition seems to be excellent. That cypher on the buttstock shows that it is original and from the looks of the buttplate, the gun hasn't been through an arsenal for any repair.
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