Gunboards Forums banner

1 - 9 of 9 Posts

·
Silver Bullet member
Joined
·
387 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
I need some help here as these are out of my area altogether , I recently picked these up along with some other things and need to know exactly what I have.
First a TR Lion Head sword makers mark is E. Pack I believe from what I can see, blade is fantastic, blued scabbard not painted ( is that correct ?? ) otherwise any info that anyone can provide/ballpark value would be great would.

Next one I cannot figure out, it has a officers knot although not pictured as it is broken where it was attached to grip area, no marks except makers mark of Puma, it is not TR but I think Weimar era ( celluloid grip ) ?? no other marks anywhere, great condition,stunning blade, is it officers or nco, ballpark value and time period of issue.

Thank you

GR
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
608 Posts
A blued scabbard is correct for 3rd reich prob pre 1940 or early reich period issue. 3rd reich eps probably worth 350 -500 and imperial era puma worth about the same. WWI blades just don't bring much even in that condition. The eps looks in good condition, if blade is good, it is worth at upper end of the bracket.
Hope this helps.
 

·
Silver Bullet member
Joined
·
387 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
Bill, Thank you, send me a pm when you get a chance. Regards GR
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
965 Posts
George,

I have an E. Pack that's about identical to yours - I paid $350 for it, though it has the usual black-painted scabbard and is for some reason missing the carrying ring. An interesting thing I found out about the other: they were government issue, unlike the private-purchase officer's swords. Check yours for the waffenamts indicating inspection and acceptance by government inspectors; there are probably several, all over the various parts. For some reason these were issued not to individuals, but to units, apparantly so if an officer needed one unexpectedly to comply with a certain order of dress, but had left his at home, he could "borrow" one of these and not be in violation of the uniform regs! That's why they're so "plain jane" - they were for "emergency" only. There's no reason this one's not TR as well as the Pack. And it's not an NCO's either - thiers had nickel-plated "silver" hilts, whereas the officers' were gilt.
 

·
Silver Bullet member
Joined
·
387 Posts
Discussion Starter #6
James,

thank you for the info, I have really looked over the plain jane model officers sword and it has no proof marks anywhere even the scabbard and the throat is devoid of any markings. How do I take it apart or should I just leave it as is.
 

·
Silver Bullet member
Joined
·
387 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
Leave it alone. Collectors hate to see where a dagger or sword has been taken down. It just screams "made from spar parts".
I will leave them alone, if someone asks for info I will refer to this post and they can read it themselves. Thank you. GR
 
1 - 9 of 9 Posts
Top