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This one was a couple weeks coming !!!! About 2 weeks ago I got a call from a guy that hangs around a pawn shop about 70 miles away. He told me to call the manager - he just took in 2 guns I might be interested in. I called and spoke to him, found out it was a scoped G43, we talked about it, I told him I was interested, and would come out the next day to see it ( it was late afternoon, they would have been closed before I got there. I called one of our resident sniper experts and got some info on what to look for. The next day I spoke to the store - they did some research, decided it was worth 10 K !!!!!!! I passed, but kept in touch. Talked to them again yesterday, they gave me their best price and told me where to look for pictures ( they put it on Gunbroker - but listed it as " AC44G43 ", which is likely why it got no hits !!!! I again called the expert, he looked at the pics, gave his opinion, and told me what to look for. I headed down this morning, came to a very nice deal, and brought it home. It was pawned as soon as the Veteran that brought it home passed....... Looks pretty nice to me, needs a little clean up, everything I know to look for seems correct. Optics are good, knobs are functional, sling serviceable. Here are some pictures. Again, thanks for the help & advice Mike !!!!
 

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Hello,

well hope you got it for a good price if so a great shooter. the mount is a fake, the bolt carrier has been renumbered, the stock has been sanded, the handguard is not correct. i saw this on GB and said someone is smoking crack!!!!! i think is was a 10K asking price.

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I don't know about the bolt renumbering but yes, the mount, bands and band screws are repro. The screws were cut to length too. I also have serious reservations about the lens covers. The stock looks sanded to me as well. Walther only used wood handguards to my knowledge. I'm sorry but the rifle has been misrepresented to either you or the pawn shop.
 

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Ouch, I think he needs to find a new "Expert" to rely on. Agree with all previous negative comments. It would now depend on what was paid for it! Still worth some money, but I woudn't touch it for anything much over $3,000. Basically price for parts. Skid
 

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After a careful look at the bolt and receiver numbering.I do not think the bolt is renumbered.The numbers look like the same font to me.But i can not say 100% with out a hands on and looking at the blueing on the bolt in natural sun light for traces of cold blue.I have no idea what you paid for it? But even a few grand less than ten grand would be way to much.Anyone who said the gun was correct with original mount does not know these rifles
 

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Good to hear i hope it works out for you ! And i am no stranger to getting surprises over the years which cost me a few $$$$$$$$$$ I find with any major purchase now i do get advice from several collectors first. Its a good insurance policy you could say.
 

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The rifle has an interesting story.

Rick called me saying that he had a call about a G43 sniper and he was an hour away from grilling out a steak at home and an hour from a scoped G43 that was claimed to be an all matching vet bring back. He asked if $1200 was a good deal. I said go immediately and get it for $1200 unless something was obviously wrong and it would be a good deal($2000-3000 value with repro mount, which I said that it was likely, if not almost certain) and if as represented it would be a steal($6000 ish but I pointed out that original matching mounts are very rare and unlikely what it would be). He elected to go home and get a steak. By the next day the owner had done some homework and the price was way up.

It ended up on gunbroker at $4000 opening and $4999 BIN. I took a quick look at the auction pics when he called again I told him the mount did not look good and I did not see any matching number on it. As I had said before and restated, original mounts are very hard to find and I had every expert known to man to check mine before I bought it at SOS a year ago. Then I had Bruce, Dave and Mike S. confirm that it was OK again later. I had previously told him almost all German snipers were fakes or enhanced, including a RC ZF41 he got a week or two ago on a 1938 RC.

Rick asked it I though that if would be worth it to go do a hands on inspection and I said yes but to get it way under the opening bid to be safe if he was not sure, like sum of parts, $2K rifle if no obvious issues, $200 mount, $500-700 if good scope. I also told him take it apart and check numbers everywhere-stock, dust cover, locking lugs, mount, etc. anywhere he could find them. Supposidely the mount was numbered to the rifle but the lousy GB pictures were not real good and it looked number free(the area where many are numbered was all goofy looking). I also pointed out to Rick that it was unlike any mount I had ever seen, although there is much variation(see Robert's book). I was busy when he called and I just took a quick look at the Pics with my focus on the mount, which is a huge part of the value. I did not do a good survey of the not so hot pictures taken indoors. There was no good detail anyway.

Rick went to look at it and got it pretty close to the sum of parts and called me on the way home after purchase. He still could not tell me the verdict on many of the things I recommended that he check, stock numbers, dust cover, bolt lugs, not sure if mount had a number but he had not found it. Interestingly, apparently someone hit BIN by the time he was getting ready to leave and the seller was trying to stop the auction.

I am no expert on these and never claimed to be. I was asked for help and gave it best I could with bad to iffy information given to me. I think $1200 for a scoped G/K43 is pretty much a no brainer and not bad advise. I also think those that condemn someone's help should know a bit more of the facts before the condemn the helping party. Maybe getting the facts first would be more wise.

That is a summation of the rest of the story.
 

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Well sounds to me like you gave decent advice.And the some of the parts is a fair deal anyway.To be honest at the start of this thread i thought he may have payed around 7 grand for it.Than i did look up the auction and see it at 4900.I have to say the first post here is just a little miss leeding no pun intended
 

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Mikes advice was good and appreciated. I have absolutely no issue with his information. I am currently into the gun for $ 3,350.00, and they are coming up with some kind of agreement with me. Question now is what is it worth ? What would be fair price to pay for this one. Also, I still don't understand the re-numbering part of the discussion, while anything is possible, I see no signs of old numbers or altered area.
 

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I do not no much about german snipers but I do now a guy that paid 10,000 for a gun just like this.Mot shure if it was a G or a k.It had the scope just like this one.
He showed it to me at a show and asked me what I thought.I told him I would not touch one without some serious homework.
I will try and post pics of the gun the next time I see it.
How do you tell if the mount is fake?
 
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