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Was the steel used in Remington and Smith Corona receivers the WD equivalent of SAE 4130 or thereabouts? If not, what SAE equivalent? Same question regarding 1903 & 1903A3 bolts plus any variation(s) from the various suppliers? Any information appreciated.
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Continuing the quest!

Chuckindenver & jgaynor, thank you for your contributions. I googled the 8620 information and found the following website.
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/need-info-ordnance-steels-166860/
The Website doesn’t speak to the Models 1903/1903A3issue, but it does discuss the composition of 8620 steel and also of Garand rifle receivers in this context. Perhaps possible to analogize to the Springfield 1903 rifle production of similar era. I remember reading somewhere that the Remington 1903 receivers were of SAE 4140. I recall neither the source nor any impression as to the validity of the information.
As an aside, the Winchester Model 70, introduced in 1936, utilized SAE 4140 steel in the receiver. (Source: Roger Rule, “The Rifleman’s Rifle”, p. 49.)
I will try to generate a little more interest and hopefully more information (even if only by inference) with a perhaps more controversial new thread concerning 8620 steel in the Garand rifle.
Thanks again for your responses gentlemen!
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some replacement bolts are marked 8620 , 4140C is the steel used to make barrels. you asked about A3 bolts..not Garand or Model 70 steel.
i have no idea what steels were used on those applications... and doubtful that anyone on on the practicle machinest forum would have a clue what steel was used.
 

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Analogies sometimes work well.

Thanks chuckindenver for the reply. I regret any confusion that my above reply generated. I do think that your original comments and that of jgaynor were right on point for the purpose of my inquiry.
In a a seeming information void, I am simply looking for clues wherever I can find them. Analogy is a legitimate method of inquiry and that is where I am presently positioned. You initiated the reference to 8620 steel regarding bolt and I thank you for that information. I followed the 8620 lead looking for the composition of that steel. I perhaps found a valid answer. (The nature of the 'machinist' thread indicated that there was indeed an interest in knowing the steel composition. Also the apparent inclusion of such information in the referenced Machinist Handbook suggests professional in interest in such knowledge.) The fact of the context of that thread concerning Garands doesn’t compromise or invalidate the answer concerning the steel composition as mild low carbon material. I then considered the likelihood that if such steel was used in the Garand receiver, it might well have been used in comparable production period Models 1903A3. Since the referenced thread also suggested that a higher grade steel had been used prior for the Garand, I wondered if such earlier unidentified steel was the WD equivalent of 4140 steel. If so perhaps too the Remington 1903 receiver might well have been fabricated from 4140; which coincided with my fuzzy recollection. The reference to the Winchester Model 70 was simply to point out that 4140 was available and even being used commercially in the U.S. marketplace by the mid-nineteen thirties. (Would a first world nation with a then state of the art military rifle choose to adopt lesser quality steels for more severe applications?)
A lot of conjecture in place of solid facts. I do tentatively conclude, in lieu of better information, that likely the 1903A3 production would have likely used 8620 steel. IF any of the experts in the Garand community has the information about original Garand steel composition(s), such might suggest a clue regarding early forties Rem 1903 production.
 

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Remington 1903/A3 Steel Composition - Thread Resuscitation!

Resuscitating almost eight year old thread! Outstanding issue, Remington WWII era 1903 & 1903A3 & Smith Corona A3 inclusive; receiver steel composition. That as assuming Chuck's contribution above, concluding that 8620 steel type largely nailing that issue.
Conjuring the exponential "research/information source" the Internet, perhaps "new" info now available?
Appreciate help/comments/suggestions; etc.
John
 
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