[SWD]

I have been reading a number of posts and if this is an old question then please forgive me as I am just considering purchasing one of these pistols. My question is; is the Federal .327Mag a good choice as another round to use in the Nagant? Other posts suggest that the .32HR Mag or the .32 S&W Long can be used, but these rounds are shorter than the 7.62x38R and the new Federal .327 Mag is longer than the others and closer to the 7.62x38R in length. Bullet weight is similar with the 7.62x38R, but is certainly powerful as a Magnum.

I would appreciate any thoughts on this.

SWD

 

[bankerbilly]

Well . .. . I'd say give it a try. Just make sure you wear your safety glasses -- and send us a card from the hospital . . . . : (

 

[SWD]

.327 Mag

Thanks,

OK, Safety first, Armored Vest and Face shield. But as I look at re-loading for the nagant, its not cheap. Most of the reviews on Nagant Brass is not favorable and reloading dies are expensive even though its a one time purchase. If the .327 Mag becomes more popular and if brass is available for reload, and since the Casing is longer than the .32 H&R Mag and a .32 S&W long, then would it be a better choice if the powder charge was reduced to the same/similiar powder charge to the other two .32 rounds?

My thoughts are, keep the Casing as close to the 7.62 x 38r as possible, but being economical in re-loading. Otherwise its almost .75 cents per shot going down range.

If I'm really off on this, then please let me know. I respect the opinions of those that have more experience with this side arm

Any thoughts?
SWD

 

[bankerbilly]

Hello SWD,

Posted this a few links down:

I've tried both the 32 Long and 32 Mag reloads in my M-1895. Bulged cases with the Longs and bulged and sometime split cases with the Mags.

Not for me ! !

Ordered a set of Lee 7.62 Nagant dies. Had on hand 100 32-20 Remington cases and 100 Starline 32-20 cases.

Sized the new cases and loaded a 98 grain WC over top 3.5 grains of Unique. Not a bear-killer load, but a fun load. Pop cans at 15 yards is easy to do. No more bulged and split cases and a big reduction in lead "spitting".

In my opinion if your gonna reload anyways, get the 32-20 brass and dies. I shoot my two M-1895's a lot more now that I have "safe" ammo. The Remington cases have been reloaded at least four times and still appear to be good a new.



So . . . if you're already reloading pistol ammo I would recommend you pick up some 32-20 brass and Lee dies (about $22 or so) and try that. No bulged cases and such.

Since I've starting to reload with the 32-20 brass one of M-1895's often goes with me to the local range. Really interesteing revolver.

Hope this helps . . . .

 

[Comrade Antibiotika]

A nagant is $70. There has to be some sort of automated gun shooting rig out there for cheap (though the trigger is a problem.) If someone had the inclination they could buy a handful of nagants and put .327 mags through until they blew up. Get us some answers.

I just shoot reloads on fiocchi brass.

 

[SWD]

Hello SWD,

Posted this a few links down:

I've tried both the 32 Long and 32 Mag reloads in my M-1895. Bulged cases with the Longs and bulged and sometime split cases with the Mags.

Not for me ! !

Ordered a set of Lee 7.62 Nagant dies. Had on hand 100 32-20 Remington cases and 100 Starline 32-20 cases.

Sized the new cases and loaded a 98 grain WC over top 3.5 grains of Unique. Not a bear-killer load, but a fun load. Pop cans at 15 yards is easy to do. No more bulged and split cases and a big reduction in lead "spitting".

In my opinion if your gonna reload anyways, get the 32-20 brass and dies. I shoot my two M-1895's a lot more now that I have "safe" ammo. The Remington cases have been reloaded at least four times and still appear to be good a new.



So . . . if you're already reloading pistol ammo I would recommend you pick up some 32-20 brass and Lee dies (about $22 or so) and try that. No bulged cases and such.

Since I've starting to reload with the 32-20 brass one of M-1895's often goes with me to the local range. Really interesteing revolver.

Hope this helps . . . .

Bankerbilly

Thanks for the info. The price is so good on these revolvers that its hard to pass them up. I'll think about a purchase in this month. Right now I'm puting dollars to my other firearms and ammunition that may become a BATF issue for the new administration that swears to uphold the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Guns owners could very possibly fall under the domestic enemies category. I'll look into other Dies for the the 32-20 and go from there. I will also probably splurge on regular Nagant Ammo and just hold on to it for a very cloudy and rainy day.

Again thanks for the information.
SWD

 

[point622000]

Hi SWD,

I'm suprised no one has mentioned that the pressures in a .327 round it about 4-5 times HIGHER than the Nagant round.

I would use the Federal 327 cases reloaded to proper Nagant load level in my Nagant

A exploding firearm is a ugly thing.

Be well,

point6

 

[bankerbilly]

Hey SWD,

Here's a little more reloading info: case length for the 327 Mag is 1.20 inch. Case length for the 32-20 is 1.315 inch. The 7.62 Nagant is a tapered case. Using 32-20 brass with the Lee reloading dies you'll get the same taper on the case as you would with the 7.62 Nagant case -- make sense ? ? So no more bulged cases.

Like I said before, since I've been reloading for my little Nagant's, they get shot a lot more. Really unique revolver . . .

 

[Gosha]

I think that the last person who tried .327 in his Nagant goes by the handle: "Lefty".


I reload for my Nagants with 32-20 brass (re-sized), Starline Nagant brass, and Fiocchi brass (after I shoot it.) It is a little more complicated than say a .38 Special, but not especially so. Unique and 98 Graf WCs are my preferred target components.

 

[bch7773]

I think that the last person who tried .327 in his Nagant goes by the handle: "Lefty".

nah he goes by the handle "bch7773"


i fired a few rounds of .327 mag in my nagant, but it is definitely NOT recommended at ALL. you may be able to fire 50 rounds safely, or you might lose both eyes on the first shot. wayyyyy too risky.


i shoot .32 SW long outta mine, the lead roundnose is a pain to clean, but at only 24 cents a round, i'll do it.

 

[Gosha]

well, alright, Lefty, I mean bch7773.

I find that I do not have to worry about lead, and my cost per round is pretty reasonable:

 

[TW1Kell]

I bought a pair for Cowboy Action Shooting, now have a C&R and waaay too many Mosins! haha!

I pulled the double-action fly out to make them CAS-legal and started shooting 32's thru them. Tried the Magnums and have done that ever since. No problems. 32's bulge, as stated, but the Mags work fine and are reloadable afterwards. FUN isn't the proper word for these little fellas. They are sweet! I can kill metal clangers at 7-12 yards all day long with 'em!

I always want more of them, but only seem to find more 1944's. I have an izhevsk and a Tula made in '44. Addictive little guys, but the "proper ammo" IS cost-prohibitive. Doesn't make sense to me.

I, too, would only load the .327 Mag to the 7.62x38 specs. Anything else should result in BOOM! But, then, I have always started out loading to the light side, anyway. Big booms are not always the "way to go".

 

[Stuffy 25th IA]

13 gr. of FFF, with a .312 roundball is the best load I have shot from mine. Using 32/20 brass sized thru a .30 carbine die.

 

[5thDragoons]

Nobody has mentioned dedicated Starline 7.62 Nagant brass. Is that no longer available? I use that & double ended wadcutters from Grafs for a real mouse killer!

Seriously - it's a fun round to shoot. SW

 

[winsted]

I used 500 32-20 brass and the double ended wadcutters from graf and it worked well, its not long enough to seal the cylinder to the barrel but instead works like any other revolver with a gap between.

 

[Gosha]

Nobody has mentioned dedicated Starline 7.62 Nagant brass. Is that no longer available? I use that & double ended wadcutters from Grafs for a real mouse killer!

Seriously - it's a fun round to shoot. SW

No longer available.

Fiocchi is supposed to come out with brass, but I will believe it when I see it.

 

[Begemot]

If you could stuff a .30-06 cartridge into a Winchester 94 chambered for .30-30, would you fire it?

I've got three words for those who run .327 Mag through their Model 1895 Nagant revolvers -- Traumatic Brain Injury. Put that neat little term in a search engine. Please at least consider the fact that there is no solid recoil shield in a Nagant. I'ts just a breech block supported by a locking block that is held into the frame by pretty scant raceways. Drive pressures up high enough to bend that area a little bit and buddy -- I'll see you on the intensive care unit -- maybe. Depends on the skill of your surgeon and so on.

And yes. Please. Will someone kindly set up a safe test rig and go ahead and blow one of these guns up so we can get some hard data.

 

[packrat1]

Ruger .327 Magnum

I have a Ruger in the new .327 Magnum cal.{$500.00+ gun} ammo is $19.99 for 20 rounds...$1.00 each, why would anyone try and shoot a $89.00 Nagant with .327 Magnum ammo...?????..shoot the 7.62 Nagant ammo. in the gun it is much cheaper and you will not kill yourself................