No.Was these rifles modified for sniper use (Using these GECO mount)in Berlin by Gustloff-Werke?
Soviets bought some and then started making their own copy of it.Was this GECO mount used on Dragoon rifles in the late '20s too?
Probably Zeiss since early Soviet scopes are copies of Zeiss.What kind of scopes were used on the dragoon prototype sniper rifles?Zeiss, Bush?
PE and PEM.And on these mid-'30s sniper rifles with GECO mount? Zeiss or PE?
They are screwed escutcheons. More pics too.I can't tell for sure in the first picture, but it looks like it has pressed sling slot escutcheons. If so, then it's a post-war replacement stock and at least a decade removed from the action. If they are screwed escutcheons then it's from the same era as the rifle, but still probably not the original to that rifle.
I would have come to that same conclusion based on the fact that the receiver is '33 the barrel is 34/51 and there are so many different parts on it from different eras. The only question that remains for me on this subject of the stock is; would the arsenal have restamped all the parts of a replacement stock or swapped out the matching number stuff from the previous? (Everything is stamped matching including the bolt and bayo)Thanks for the pictures. It's a pre-war stock, but I still don't think it's the original sniper stock.
I'm certain now that I will not alter this rifle from it's current state. If you saw the thread on the old board that listed this rifle for sale, you would have seen that I gave TGI $225 for it. Good Deal or going rate? Anyone have any idea of the rarity (numbers known)?I found some pictures that I put together for previous possible ex-GeCo thread on old boards.
I would not (and will not in my case) try to restore this rifle. Just keep it as is.
CH (SN in English) was on Army (Red Army a.k.a. RKKA) rifles.The one thing I am not seeing is the "Ch" mark that Tula placed on snipers, usually located at the top of the star on the barrel. Wondering out loud, that with the odd GECO mount holes, if this was a field capture standard 91/30, modified by the Germans, as alb87 kinda suggests above.
Too few sale to know the going value. I am sure several of us would pay more. I think you got a good deal. Numbers known--looks like less than a dozen at this point best I can tell.
Ted, are yours C H marked above the Tula star?
M.Stewart is the one that brought this rifle to my attention....sorta
TGI had a MO 1938 Ex PEM listed same time as this rifle
When I emailed them about confirming the 1938 was indeed an EX in which they did...
I passed on both of them...