[selectfire]

Have I just missed it or is there a thread about how well our membership scored on that auction today? I saw a 1923 '91 that is RSFSR marked AND is a SCW veteran scored by a member, some unaltered dragoons, some mis-marked Lotta's. Some interesting stuff sold but mostly "fully priced" IYNWIM. Don't make me name names!

 

[Tombstone]

I picked up three, but it seems like everyone had WAY more money than me. Prices were way high on most of it, especially with 15% and $35 for shipping.

 

[selectfire]

Tomb, agree completely, saw only a few items go below market, but there were some unusual and interesting items. Wish I had scored one of those RSFSR rifles, especially that spanish civil war '91!

 

[USMCsean]

Im in a sour mood because of it right now, and not because I lost.

 

[Brad70]

I managed to score a K98 out of the bunch for about the same cost as an RC. All I know is whoever goes by the name of Danco101, Classic or CoachMb owes some money. It seems like everything I was interested in had one of the above names bidding on it.

 

[selectfire]

classic was everywhere. KReid and TulaTuco were big scorers as well.

 

[LVSteve]

My auction report

I was there and I got two. Some of the prices were a bit steep on some items, but other things went for about what I expected. Some folk in the room had obviously inspected the guns on Friday as they left all the flaky stuff well alone. I picked up an Enfield I wanted but passed on the earlier pieces as they were either the wrong spec or had damaged wood that you could not really see in the internet pictures.

I did notice three high profile bidders who bought a stack of stuff. One of the three specialises in high end goodies and is not afraid to spend money. I found myself bidding against him for that Peruvian Mauser which he won for $600. I would have blown my budget big time if I had tried to compete with the guy and won. I was surprised that nobody from the internet got that one higher.

One thing I did notice, a lot of items sold for the starting bid generated by the internet folks, and really cheap on occassions. That made a change from the last auction where the people in the room seemed to feel it was their duty to squeeze out the Proxibid users.

We had the usual crop of buyers who had not read the auction conditions and charges. They did not exactly speed up the checkout process. Buyers premium was on top of what you bid and the tax goes on top of that, it was all CLEARLY stated. The poor folk on the internet got hammered even more, I understand.

I did get zinged by the last minute bidders in the room on one of my items. It was about to be knocked down to me for $50 when I think the folk at the front thought "Hey, that's a clean looking Nagant, we can't let him have it for that!" I have watched dealers play this game quite often. As soon as you get up to Big 5 prices, they magically stop bidding. Funny thing, eh?

 

[selectfire]

Steve, I saw several potentially high-dollar rifles get shuffled through very quickly with almost no time for counter-bids, leaving the internet pre-bidder with a windfall, IMO. Couldn't quite understand why it varied from other lots but maybe the large number of items made the auctioneers somewhat reckless.

 

[LVSteve]

Well, because of the sheer numbers they wanted to keep the pace up. Stuff that was not generating interest in the room got knocked down pretty quickly. It was not only the interenet bidders that had to be quick, several times folk in the room waited half a second too long and lost the item. Such is life at a high pressure auction.

 

[LVSteve]

Im in a sour mood because of it right now, and not because I lost.

Sounds like your spouse caught you putting in big bids on more guns, to me. Seriously, did you end up over budget on some bits or did the prices paid make you think paid too much for some stuff in the recent past?

 

[Spetznatz]

I love the weekends that those auctions are held because nobody watches Gunboards and I always score something I need. Like this weekend I score a Yugo Model 24 Mauser. I am totally happy!

 

[keithreid]

It was a good auction, and it was the last one from that estate. doubt they'll have a lot of stuff like that again. As for prices, I bid what I was willing to pay and am clear on the extra charges.
I actually picked up 2 1924 tula m91's, one was spanish civil war, the other was finned. Also got one of the bohler-stahl m24's, a 1927 dated m27, and a dual sling slot m28. The rest were oddballs, like a steyr m95 long rifle, a remington made berthier, and some late nagoya type 38's.
The type 99 arisaka's went fairly cheap, mainly because they didn't show pictures of the arsenal stamps. very important piece of information on value.

The polish wz-98a long rifle went for 1450? I think. not too bad, I guess, but they had it listed as 1936 dated and my references said they started making them in 1937.

I think sean is a little upset because (once again) the auction got posted about here before it happened. Seems to be one of those things that folks just can't help talking about.

Was a fun auction, hope everyone gets what they paid for though. kinda potluck just going by pictures.

Keith

 

[selectfire]

Well this thread didn't start till well after the auction was over purposely to keep from stepping on anyone's toes. Btw Keith congrats on your haul, you picked the rifles I would have bought (attempted to buy) if I were not illiquid at the moment from a previous auction. Those 1920's rifles are particularly interesting.

 

[keithreid]

oh, I wasn't pointing fingers there selectfire! I don't even know who put up the other thread, as I didn't post to it. I'm not even sure how long this one will last though, cause I'm not sure if Vic and Tuco want us posting about this one at all? I'm hoping that this doens't count as free advertising, as there won't be any more darnell estate auctions.

Keith

 

[mawkie]

Was out bid on one of the Remington Berthiers (perhaps by Keith?) but did get an early Arisaka Type 99 Long for a decent price (hammer + premium = $316). Let's hope I'm as happy when I unpack it!
Did anyone else notice the Finn "S" marked Type 30 Arisaka? Not as nice as the one ihatemacs got last year but a decent example. Somebody got it for a hammer price of $425. I was tempted to bid on it but have other pressing projects that need funding.
Still haven't figured out if some of the more prolific bidders previously mentioned are collectors or dealers. Me thinks probably the latter. Some bidders, like Keith, were easy to ID from their membership here on GB.
This sounds like one auction that I would not have enjoyed live. Of the two auction houses near Lancaster PA, Horst and Conestoga, I prefer Horst because their bidding tempo is easy for 'ol fog brained Mawkie to follow. In contrast, Conestoga goes like a bat outta hell and leaves me in the dust. Once, at Conestoga, I was high bidder on a German ERMA .22 trainer and damned if I knew what I had just bid to at the hammer! Thank God it wasn't big money.

 

[tuco In Memoriam]

Sean is mad as the auction was mentioned here but then again the last time the auction took place many members spoke of it after the fact so I think that is what let the cat out of the bag. So really I am not sure what there is to be mad about since it was discussed the last time around.

I bought three Finn dragoons - not cheap but in today's market I did ok. I should tell the auction house they own Gunboards a few grand as a lot of our members were bidding there.

BTW - Keith has more money than Bill Gates as he outbid me on a few items. I hate him now. really hate him......

 

[Bob In St. Louis]

Keith is Mr. Money Bags because he doesn't have a wife or kids, and does nothing but work and pull down a big pay check. I always like doing business with him!

 

[LVSteve]

That is some haul, Keith! Was it you who got the lollipop stick M27? There were quite a few interesting 1891s about, but I have neither the money or space to start building a large collection just now. I think I looked over most of the MNs you bought when I was there on Friday. I think you will be pleased. I got the Triangle 25 91/30 because it had nice a nice bore, clean wood and was at the right price. I also got a #4 Mk1/2 Enfield with its original serial matched wood updated rather than a new Mk2 stock fitted.

I also noticed the Arisakas going cheap. For $120 I thought about getting one "just because" but I do not have the space. There was a hysterically funny Arisaka Bubba'd to death. It had a 1 3/8 diameter barrel with what looked like a 22 bore. I should have opened the action to see what had been done at that end.

Mawkie, I guess the pace is set by the desire to have one auction not two. There were some minor screw ups from time to time and they had to restart a couple of items. There were other "interesting" moments caused by people waving their card around while talking to somebody. Ski (the auctioneer) had to ask several times "Are you bidding, Sir?" during the afternoon because of these folk. You also said:

Still haven't figured out if some of the more prolific bidders previously mentioned are collectors or dealers. Me thinks probably the latter.

I am pretty sure the one guy is a dealer. At the February auction he seemed to make a point of bidding up the cheap stuff nearer Big 5 prices. It was like he could not let somebody on the internet get a $40 rifle. He did it a lot less at this auction. Maybe he ran out of space.

 

[keithreid]

I don't have more money than bill, I'm just single and like ramen noodles and peanut butter! Plus, I saved up for this auction.
I didn't know i was bidding against you guys most of the time, the names on the screen were flashing by so fast you couldn't see them part of the time. I think i did get a 42 tikka m91 that tuco bid on, and that had to be me on the remington berthier, the only other one was chopped up.

Mawkie, that was a nice t99 long rifle you got. with that s/n range, it has to be a nagoya, and there were far fewer of those made than TK's. I hadn't even noticed it was a long rifle till the hammer fell, but I also picked up a nagoya last month, so I wouldn't have been bidding on it anyway.

as fpr the m91's, those were the first russian 1920's dated ones i've gotten. I recently realized that it's entirely possible to have an unbroken string of years in m91's from 1891 to 1927 (if you count the 26 and 27 tikka's). Not real close to that yet, but working on it. I was really trying not to be too greedy, too. I didn't even bid on the 2 1926 tikka's on there! didn't hit any of the m27's except for the 1927 date, and only bid on one of the 2 m28's. the second m28 was a little weird looking, m27 stock and rear swivel with a 28 front band. whoever tokarev and artygunbunny are cleaned up on the m27's.

 

[tuco In Memoriam]

I don't have more money than bill, I'm just single and like ramen noodles and peanut butter! Plus, I saved up for this auction.
I didn't know i was bidding against you guys most of the time, the names on the screen were flashing by so fast you couldn't see them part of the time. I think i did get a 42 tikka m91 that tuco bid on, and that had to be me on the remington berthier, the only other one was chopped up.

Mawkie, that was a nice t99 long rifle you got. with that s/n range, it has to be a nagoya, and there were far fewer of those made than TK's. I hadn't even noticed it was a long rifle till the hammer fell, but I also picked up a nagoya last month, so I wouldn't have been bidding on it anyway.

as fpr the m91's, those were the first russian 1920's dated ones i've gotten. I recently realized that it's entirely possible to have an unbroken string of years in m91's from 1891 to 1927 (if you count the 26 and 27 tikka's). Not real close to that yet, but working on it. I was really trying not to be too greedy, too. I didn't even bid on the 2 1926 tikka's on there! didn't hit any of the m27's except for the 1927 date, and only bid on one of the 2 m28's. the second m28 was a little weird looking, m27 stock and rear swivel with a 28 front band. whoever tokarev and artygunbunny are cleaned up on the m27's.

tokarev -- Thanks for reminding me as I hate him as well
Keith I think you got me on that 1928? Dragoon but I am not sure if that was you or someone else. Either way I still hate you.