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Hello,

Recently I added a Soldbuch to my collection; the NCO, that worked as a jailor in the WH prison in Paris, was armed with a Colt pistol or revolver.
The serialnumber of the weapon is: 33559.
Is it possible, with the aid of this serialnumber to find out which type of pistol it was and when it was made?

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Peter
 

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Hello,

Recently I added a Soldbuch to my collection; the NCO, that worked as a jailor in the WH prison in Paris, was armed with a Colt pistol or revolver.
The serialnumber of the weapon is: 33559.
Is it possible, with the aid of this serialnumber to find out which type of pistol it was and when it was made?

Regards,
Peter

With nothing but the serial number and maker, afraid not. Could narrow the choices, some, but since Colt used the same serial number for several differnt models, the type isn't possible to identify with any degree of certainty.

That number could be any of the following:

An 1849 Pocket Model made in 1852 (almost certainly not);
An 1851 Navy Model made in 1853 (almost certainly not)
An 1860 Army Model made in 1862 (almost certainly not)
An 1861 Navy Model made in 1869 (almost certainly not)
An 1862 Police model made in 1866 (almost certainly not)
An 1862 Pocket Navy Model made in 1866 (almost certainly not)
An Open Top Pocket Model (Old Line) made in 1874 (very unlikely)
A Second Model New Line 22 made in 1877 (unlikely)
A Single Action Army made in 1877 (unlikely)
An 1877 Double Action made in 1881 (unlikely)
An 1878 Double Action Frontier made in 1894 (unlikely)
A Model 1892 (New Army and Navy) made in 1895 (possible, but I'd think unlikely)
A New Police Model made in 1905 (possible candidate, I'd think)
A New Service Model made in 1911 (potential here)
A Police Positive .38 made in 1910 (potential here)
A Pocket Positive made in 1902 (unlikely)
A Police Positive Special made in 1910 (possible)
A Model 1902 Military auto made 1910 or 1911 (possible)
A Model 1903 Hamerless auto in .32 (7.65mm) made in 1905 (possible)
A Model 1903 (Hammer Model) made in 1914 (possible)
A Model 1908 hammerless in 380 (9mm Kurz) made in 1918 or 1919 (possible)

Hope this offers at least some food for thought
 

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That looks like a 1944 or 45ish document. If the guard was a US NCO, the most likely pistol would be M1911, next woud be M1917 and lastly a Colt Commando. That is assuming it was a US soldier with an issue weapon. That is about all that was being issued at that time that came from Colt.
 

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That looks like a 1944 or 45ish document. If the guard was a US NCO, the most likely pistol would be M1911, next woud be M1917 and lastly a Colt Commando. That is assuming it was a US soldier with an issue weapon. That is about all that was being issued at that time that came from Colt.

Hi Mike,

This is a page from a German Soldbuch, the Unteroffizier was a jailor in a Wehrmacht prison in Paris in the spring of 1944 when he was issued this pistol.


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Hi Mike,

This is a page from a German Soldbuch, the Unteroffizier was a jailor in a Wehrmacht prison in Paris in the spring of 1944 when he was issued this pistol.

Got you. My German is non-existant. English not that good.

I suspect if you research what US weapons Germans issued you could narrow it down. The mentioned 1903 and 1908's are possible. My bet would be on the 1911 because they were given a designation and issued. The 1917 revolver is certainly possible. Traditional wisdom says that most of the Commandos stayed in the US for internal and factory security.
 
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