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Anyone else out there shooting in the CMP Western Games Vintage Rifle Match?

I'm struggling between shooting one of my M-39 Nagants or a Swedish M-96 Mauser. Have used each once in the past as well as a Swiss K31.

The Nagant lover in me wants to shoot the M-39 but the competeive guy wants to shoot the M-96.

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I haven't heard anything about this match. Where can I get some info no the match? Just a little heads up a Nagant is a Revolver an M39 is a Mosin Nagant or Mosin.
 

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I have used these various descriptions since 1986 - Guess it is time to be more correct...Used to post on this forum as Graniteman

I do know the difference between a Mosin Nagant rifle and a Nagant revolver.

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I do know the difference between a Mosin Nagant rifle and a Nagant revolver.

Tiledude

Tiledude, I meant you no disrespect just trying to keep you from catching a lot of flak. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Thank you for the link to the CMP match.
 

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I thought about it but will be working. I used my M39 on the local CMP VMBAR shoot last Sunday in Prescott. The high score was using a Swiss K31, with shooters ranging from 03A3, LE #4, Swede 38, another Finn 39, M24/47 and even a Krag.
Always a lot of fun.

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While I am not in your neighborhood and won't attend, if both are the same accuracy-wise, go with the one that cycles fastest for the rapid-fire phase. (I don't think it will be the M-39, however.)
 

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CMP Western Games

Spetznatz - We're good.

It is Mosin Nagant - You are correct.

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The guy that shot top score at the Eastern Games shot a K31. Wish I still had eyes that can focus on those sights...
 

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I thought about it but will be working. I used my M39 on the local CMP VMBAR shoot last Sunday in Prescott. The high score was using a Swiss K31, with shooters ranging from 03A3, LE #4, Swede 38, another Finn 39, M24/47 and even a Krag.
Always a lot of fun.

Bill

I used to shoot old military matches at a local club. I regularly won the bolt gun group with one of my '98 Krags. I wouldn't think twice about shunning my M39s and taking a Krag.

One big advantage of the Krag is that the sling swivel is positioned so you can actually use it to steady your front hand. Mosin slings have the attachment too far forward to be of much use except as a hasty sling.

The Krag's lack of stripper clip loading is a small disadvantage. Just get some practice in dumping 5 rounds in the open gate.

My biggest piece of advice to anyone wanting to shoot one of these matches would be to have a good zero for all ranges of fire.

Have fun to all who go!
 

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CMP Western Games Vintage Rifle Match

I've shot my best in this match using a Swede 96/38.

The rapid fire and clip-loading speed with the M39 was not bad at all for me in last year's match, it was primarily the sling. The K31 had similar issues - Was able to use a web M1 sling on the K31 they time I used it, worked OK.

The accuracy of the rifles that I mentioned is sufficient, the Swede and the Swiss were very smooth to operate by the M39 that I used was actually smooth enough. For me I think that it does come down to the sling and where and how it attaches.

I definitely agree that having a good 200 yd. zero before the match is critical.

In the past the high scores were Swedish Mauser and Swiss K31 but I have seen various Mausers, M1917 Enfields, No1Mk3, No4Mk1/2 Enfields, M44 and my Moisin Nagant M39 used in this match.

You can use your own handloads in this specific match.

I'm pretty sure at this point that I am going to use a 1918 Carl Gustav M96 Swedish Mauser which I have a good zero on and a good leather sling.

Panhead - I'm pretty sure that you can shoot the Vintage either Sunday or Monday - Would that allow you to shoot in it?

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CMP Western Games

I plan on going but I am not going to shoot. I will be observing and enjoying the compitition.
 

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Tiledude, I would like to shoot but I'll be in the field helping a friend on this elk hunt on Monday, then in Flag Town on Tuesday. Just a busy time of year.
Have a fun shoot,
Tiledude and Bob S, maybe make it to Prescott, our shoot is the 5th Sunday of those months.
www.prescottsportsmenclub.com is the site.
Bill
 

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Thanks for the invite Bill but I'm up in Nor-Cal and it is a long drive.

I would not feel poorly-armed in this match with a Krag - The rapid fire phase allows plenty of time - Didn't feel rushed clip-loading and working the bolt of my Moisin Nagant.

Enjoy the Elk hunt!

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