[Carcano]

mariko
Canada
Posted - 11/20/2006 : 5:16:49 PM
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Hi, first post here. I have two sporterized Carcanos I picked up over the years.They are both in 6.5x54 MS.One has set triggers and takes the normal Carcano charger.The other has a charger pinned in the magazine and can be loaded like a normal rifle.They are both so similar in appearance it looks like they are factory conversions.Both say 6.5mm on the rear sight and looks like MC in a square underneath with a 6 then 16..date? Any info much appreciated.

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Antonio
Posted - 11/21/2006 : 10:43:48 PM
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Look down the barrel Some of sporters will have a 4 groove fast twist barrel. Take it out of the wood and see if there is a set screw under the barrel at the receiver. Some of these were turned down and the barrel was put into the action and the olny thing holding the barrel in is the set screw. Not advisble to shoot them. Most of these sporterized guns were sold to a department store chain in Canada. They were done by an Austrian company in the 1920's. In fact most of the set trigger guns that were sold are mostly all in Canada. Nice gun. Here is a photo of two from my collection.

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mariko
Canada
Posted - 11/21/2006 : 11:31:56 PM
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Well I checked for set screws and one rifle has one and the other rifles screw is missing!!They will make nice wallhangers,I actually fired them both a couple of times years ago,but no more. Thanks for the info. Mariko



257 rigby
Posted - 11/25/2006 : 01:52:45 AM
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Sir, would it be possible for you to post a photoor give a description of how the charger clip is pinned in place ? Does it permit loading individual rounds like a mauser, remington and such?
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Douglas I. Kerley
Posted - 11/25/2006 : 05:59:57 AM
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Hi; Charger thing like on the M95M Yugo 8X57 conversion of the Styer M95. Canada truly is a whole other country with different stuff and everything. Been to a bunch of Canadian shows and was amaized that the differences. Sucked up a bunch of odds and ends and pre 1898's. Doug



mariko
Canada
Posted - 11/25/2006 : 1:02:29 PM
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HI 257 Rigby,heres some pics of how it was done,they didnt use an actual charger as it would have been too sloppy.The back part is a half inch longer than normal and is retained at the top by the clip release and pinned at both bottom sides.The other parts are spring steel and rivetted on.It loads like any normal magazine rifle.Please dont call me sir,its too formal..-Mariko

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DMala
Posted - 11/25/2006 : 9:47:45 PM
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Thanks to all for the very interesting pictures and info!

 

[Carcano]

Canadian Sporter Conversions to 6,5x54 MS

Two main types of commercialized sporters are known: the Austrian copnversions of the 1920s (OeWG, I believe) and the Canadian ones. Richard Hobbs has reported the latter in his Carcano book. Here is an old posting with some more info:

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Newfoundlander
Posted - 09/07/2004 : 12:30:24 AM
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About some turnbolt Mannlicher: There is a possibility that this rifle might be chambered for 6.5 MS. Except for the wood it looks like one of the rifles that were bought and sold by the Hudson's Bay Company and Simpson's department stores "back in the day".

In addition to some Dutch and Greek Mann. the folks at HBC also altered some Carcani by chopping their barrels and rethreading them back into the stub so they could be rechambered for the then plentiful(!) 6.5 MS rounds they had on hand. I'm not sure about the Mannlichers but the Carcanos should definately be avoided. Many of these rifles have found their way south of the border in recent years so be careful! These guns usually have dual set triggers, altered bolt handles, sporterised or replacment stocks, and most original marking (often including serial numbers) removed.