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Silvio Berlusconi was Prime Minister of Italy.....four times.

In 2008 he made a deal for Italy to give Gaddafi $5 Billion.....

I know Carcano's are going up, but it looks like Gaddafi got the BETTER deal. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Sir, Herzlich Wilkommen!

Provocative foto.... such a memorable moment in history. I'm risking the wrath of the GB moderator here, but most people in the USA have not the slightest idea of the significance of this foto. Then there is another larger issue at stake here, we are collectors of Italian arms, and with that part and parcel is Italian history. The Italian people and Libyan people have so much in common, they are and have been for over 2000 years close neighbors. Libyans have invaded Italy and Italy (Rome) has invaded Libya. As a result, Libya is as much part of Italy as Italy is of Libya. They both share rich cultures and delicious food. Yes, the Italian prime minister Berlusconi eats crow and prostrates himself....he also kissed Gaddafi's hand. Pecuniary incentive but also the right thing to do in light of Italy's fascist era crimes suffered at the hands of Benito Mussolini. To understand the roots of colonialism read Joseph Conrad's novel (1899) “The Heart of Darkness.”

Please note the spirit of the Italian gunboards forum is a colloquial exchange of ideas, documentation, fotos, data, and historical account of Italian arms. The development of existing Italian arms, in the hands of collectors today, occurred before Italy's colonial engagements and throughout the fascist era. Unfortunately, Italian arms throughout these periods are aliased with colonial and fascist history.

Berlusconi quietly and humbly ushers out the past and embraces the post millennial world, a new world belonging to the post millennial generation who care nothing about mid-20th century stigma and the 20th century dogma between Germans and Italians. Today, the Italian millennial generation see Germans as cousins. It's time to move out of the past and into the present. By the way, thanks for posting the foto(y)
 

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happen 2002 in tripolis



Feurwerker... keep your friends close and your enemies even closer..

Smile Cap Hat Coat Tie
 

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The Italian link is interesting; in some ways it reminds me of our own totally out of control open border situation.
There must be some story or history behind the rifle that Gheddafi passes to Berlusconi...it doesn't look like an NRA grade Excellent rifle? B looks like he had a bad proctology experience. As to where it may be today is a good question.
You are correct in your assessment of the border situations. The promise of a new life in an "EU dream" is a mirage created by corrupt European politicians who themselves can live in posh villas around lake Como in Lombardy and hob-nob with Hollywood asswipes or in 3.4 million dollar mansions on the sheik side of Forte dei Marmi in Tuscany. They don't have to live anywhere near the urban mess they create in the larger cities. Nor do they have to face the decay and misery in the lives of those they send into the arms of the ndranghetta, camorra, and mafia. The news media both US and EU deride and bemoan the influence of the evil NRA in American politics all the while ignoring the effects of the detrimental politic of the oligarchs who control and exploit the USA and EU for the sake of their own gain. The mass media decries the evil of the NRA all the while covertly supporting the blitzkrieg of the Mexican cartels who traffic humans and fill US cities with dope that poisons the youth and creates a sub-human society that is forced to live in tents and under bridges. Who then is responsible for the mass violence in the US and what are the US politicians doing to protect the law abiding citizens who pay for their happy holiday existence and power trip???
 

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Geez Nando, when you have the time let us know what you really think about the situation...I'm being sarcastic, I happen to agree with just about everything you said. Well stated. Tutto incasinato. Grazie, Ralph
 
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