The bayonets have their own production numbers which have nothing to do with the rifles. They are important in assessing the volumes produced.
Carcano
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 5:39:36 PM
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Prices vary greatly depending upon your sources; these bayonets can be found cheaply at mixed auctions, from estates, or in pawnshops and gunshops, whereas bayonet collectors and specialized dealers take a higher price. Very roughly, between $ 75 and $ 150 is to be expected, though good buys at a third or a quarter of these sums are always possible with some luck.
ken giller
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 5:57:50 PM
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Interesting how so many of these short rifles don't have the bayo lug anymore. Should you find a source, BeSwift, please let me know. Also, nice find on the bayonet. I'd like to get one for mine as soon as I find a bayonet lug.
BeSwift
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 7:41:14 PM
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Man, I'll tell ya, it's always something... I luck into the bayonet that I thought I wouldn't find, and wouldn't ya know it, now I'll probrably need to buy another rifle to canibalize for a stinking bayonet lug.. hhhmmph... Just venting, and really thank both of you guys for your advice and expertise. BeSwift
ken giller
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 9:45:39 PM
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I'm about to that point for a bayo lug also. Carcano is the expert, I've just jumped into collecting these rifles and love the three I have.
Ken G.
Carcano
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 3:11:20 PM
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I could of course, out of pure gracefulness and clemency, sell you a bayonet lug for the modest price of a cannibalizable M 1938 rifle . I got one or two waiting here for a new owner.
Incidentally, for bayonet collectors out there, my two 2nd model M 1938 folders (button lock) are serialized thus on the gripstrap:
- E 57396, with small R and "60 in diamond"
- L 23522, with small R and "?4 in diamond", marked "4" on the front side of the mounting ring
Both have medium dark grips of very finely grained wood, and a dark anthrazite "blued" blade (no reddish or brownish hues).
BeSwift
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 6:16:07 PM
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Carcano, I'd like to take you up on your bayonet lug offer, if you'd backchannel me (e-mail) at your earliest convenience.
My bayonet also has a nicely blued blade, but shows some hint of reddish areas where the bluing is thin. My markings are:
I 97369 with a small R, and a 5 inside a diamond
ken giller
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 9:01:55 PM
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Carcano,oh gracious one, please shoot me a email for details of this baynet lug you speak of.
Thanks,
Ken Giller
giller@earthlink.net
Carcano
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 5:39:36 PM
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Prices vary greatly depending upon your sources; these bayonets can be found cheaply at mixed auctions, from estates, or in pawnshops and gunshops, whereas bayonet collectors and specialized dealers take a higher price. Very roughly, between $ 75 and $ 150 is to be expected, though good buys at a third or a quarter of these sums are always possible with some luck.
ken giller
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 5:57:50 PM
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Interesting how so many of these short rifles don't have the bayo lug anymore. Should you find a source, BeSwift, please let me know. Also, nice find on the bayonet. I'd like to get one for mine as soon as I find a bayonet lug.
BeSwift
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 7:41:14 PM
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Man, I'll tell ya, it's always something... I luck into the bayonet that I thought I wouldn't find, and wouldn't ya know it, now I'll probrably need to buy another rifle to canibalize for a stinking bayonet lug.. hhhmmph... Just venting, and really thank both of you guys for your advice and expertise. BeSwift
ken giller
Posted - 01/03/2004 : 9:45:39 PM
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I'm about to that point for a bayo lug also. Carcano is the expert, I've just jumped into collecting these rifles and love the three I have.
Ken G.
Carcano
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 3:11:20 PM
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I could of course, out of pure gracefulness and clemency, sell you a bayonet lug for the modest price of a cannibalizable M 1938 rifle . I got one or two waiting here for a new owner.
Incidentally, for bayonet collectors out there, my two 2nd model M 1938 folders (button lock) are serialized thus on the gripstrap:
- E 57396, with small R and "60 in diamond"
- L 23522, with small R and "?4 in diamond", marked "4" on the front side of the mounting ring
Both have medium dark grips of very finely grained wood, and a dark anthrazite "blued" blade (no reddish or brownish hues).
BeSwift
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 6:16:07 PM
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Carcano, I'd like to take you up on your bayonet lug offer, if you'd backchannel me (e-mail) at your earliest convenience.
My bayonet also has a nicely blued blade, but shows some hint of reddish areas where the bluing is thin. My markings are:
I 97369 with a small R, and a 5 inside a diamond
ken giller
Posted - 01/05/2004 : 9:01:55 PM
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Carcano,oh gracious one, please shoot me a email for details of this baynet lug you speak of.
Thanks,
Ken Giller
giller@earthlink.net