Bulgarian Warming? Global Milsurp?...
That screen capture thing is pretty nifty!
I've been getting a lot of "Page not found" errors on my browser lately; not sure if it's an internet or browser issue; will have to dabble with it some more.
The conversation we've got going on here is quite reminiscent of what we had going on 2 or 3 years ago on the "old board".
We had people who were firmly convinced that the pink wrapped '52 Bulgy was loaded with dynamite or something; speculations ran from deliberately sabotaged (slave labor will do that, apparently) to "Proof" ammunition, and some places in between too weird to even mention.
IIRC it wasn't only one CZ-52 Shooter who had problems related to this lot of Bulgy. Not a whole lot of them, but enough to suggest at least a possible connection.
No one at the time seemed to have access to a pressure gun, at least not one chambered in 7.62X25mm,
(Edit: Having finally gotten in to the OG website, I see that samples were apparentl tested by Accurate Arms, where they were found to generate pressures up to 55,000 CUP, which is typical for a Magnum rifle cartridge, far in excess of the design limitations of most if not all handguns.)
If it were just one or two problems here and there, it could indeed be attributed to out of round rollers, bad heat treatment, out of spec chambers (that stuff happens) or something else.
But with the reports we had rolling in for a while there, the connection seemed to be a little more than mere coincidence.
Since the old archives were apparently lost, we have no way of checking that out at this point, I don't suppose.
Since I was never directly effected, anything that I post in regards to this issue is second hand, at the closest.
Then, as now, the theory (and that's all it is, lacking empirical data) was embraced as scientific fact (which it never really was) by some corespondents, while being soundly rejected by others as mere myth... as it well may be. I think that I alluded to this conflict in a previous post.
So I'm not contending that '52 Bulgy will blow up your Czech-O-Matic, nor will I maintain that it is safe to shoot.
I really don't know for sure.
If you really feel a need to remind me of that fact, by all means feel free - but you really needn't .
Since our original go-round on this subject, a more widespread but perhaps similar controversy has made the news, and continues to keep people all over the World at loggerheads; "Global Warming".
People seem to be pretty polarized on that deal;
Some hold it to be scientifically established fact that if we don't all park our cars and trucks and go back to donkey carts and such, not only will the polar bears all drown, we all will! Egads!
Others, who seem to be at least equally intelligent and informed as the legions of the convinced, dismiss it as all hooey; political hogwash.
Even the so-called "Scientists" and "Experts" can't seem to agree on what's really causing it, what can be done about it (if anything) and what's going to develop in the future.
So we probably never get to the bottom of the '52 Bulgy controversy, and whenever the subject comes up, the flames will fly.
Although we don't see much about this any more, which is probably a good thing, every now and then it seems to pop up as it did here recently, where a new contributor posted a picture of his new CZ-52 along with some packs of Bulgarian surplus ammo.
Another alert Member thought it looked like the suspect lot and when the buyer checked the head stamps, sure enough it was.
I think that what we want the newbie to know is that SOME PEOPLE have apparently had issues with this ammo, believing for whatever reason that it has "destroyed" several pistols, while OTHER SHOOTERS who have fired hundreds if not thousands of rounds of it without incident dismiss their anxiety out of hand... and obviously still do.
The advice provided by a fellow Member in a previous posting that the Chap who has the suspect ammo might consider doing some research and come to his own conclusions as to whether he feels safe in shooting it, is as good as any that I might come up with.
Would I run any '52 or '53 pink wrapped Bulgy through either one of MY COMs?
On the basis of what I've seen and read, probably not; best to err, ofttimes, on the side of caution methinks.
I'd be more likely to pull it down for components... probably just the bullets.
Hmmmmmm....
I wonder how much gunsmoke contributes to global warming???
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