[Arfrsairbrush]

I have my grandfathers ww2 arisaka and i want to know more about it. he was stationed in Japan and PI, and brought it home with him after the war. i refinished the stock and tried to blue the metal pieces. i know that this devalues the piece, but i want to keep it in my family and finish restoring the missing pieces. if anyone can help me figure out which model this is and if it was a trainer, or any info for that matter, it would be greatly appreciated.

 

[BIG ED]

Never seen one like that. That's got some weird markings on the receiver bridge. Looks like a t99 copy some nation made? I don't think it's a WWII Japanese weapon.

 

[45Guy]

Chinese maybe? I heard some chatter a few years back about one.

 

[Rick N.]

Looks Arisaka, but never saw markings like that before, cool rifle - can't wait to see the experts weigh in on the type & markings.

 

[seinen]

It's a Japanese Type 99 long training rifle. Haven't identified the maker yet. Can you send me a PM? I'd like to get some clearer photos of the markings and serial number for my studies. Thanks!

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[Arfrsairbrush]

I thought it was a trainer too. The star marking is Korean I think but I'm not sure if there is a bunch of missing pieces on it. I know it is missing the front iron sight and sling, but I don't see where the front sling attachment goes

 

[seinen]

Received your PM. Thanks! Will get back to you later today with my email address.

The star with kanji character isn't Korean, but rather a Japanese corporate trademark. I believe you are thinking of the symbol for the Jinsen Arsenal. I've yet to identify the maker, although I've seen at least one trademark publication entry for a similar design. The company that made these trainers also marked the dustcovers with the same logo as stamped on the receivers. Will try to post some photos tonite.

Whoever shortened the stock on your example removed the rear barrel band, which is the attachment that would have secured the sling.

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[45Guy]

Stupid question, but weren't the 99 long rifle receivers also milled lower at the rear end unlike the 38's?

 

[seinen]

Stupid question, but weren't the 99 long rifle receivers also milled lower at the rear end unlike the 38's?

Not sure I understand. What do you mean by "milled lower at the rear end?"

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[Trenchwarfare]

Dontcha just love sporterized trainers! With the front sight being removed, guess he never got around to mounting a scope? Being sporterized, means it was probably hunted with. And shot... With live ball ammo!

 

[45Guy]

Milled lower, as shown in the two photos. Just figured ity out though I think... I'm assuming the root of the bolt handle served as the locking lug for blank firing?

 

[seinen]

Being sporterized, means it was probably hunted with. And shot... With live ball ammo!

Geez, I sure hope not!

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[seinen]

Just figured ity out though I think... I'm assuming the root of the bolt handle served as the locking lug for blank firing?

Most Type 99 long rifle trainers had fully functional locking lugs. I'm not sure if this variant did. Will have to check mine when I get home.

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[45Guy]

Take a good look at the photos, the ring isn't milled for passage of lugs, nor is it fitted with an extractor.

 

[45Guy]

Not sure I understand. What do you mean by "milled lower at the rear end?"

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[Arfrsairbrush]

If I buy parts to restore what's missing do I get basic parts for a type 99 or is there a variation of the type 99 that I should look out for? Also being it is a trainer, is it possible or safe for that matter to actually shoot it?

 

[davef]

shooting trainers is never a good idea, I dont think that model will function properly to shoot,some would,some wouldnt. I have shot some of the high quality ,rifled trainers that were almost identical to issue guns, but its not considered safe and Id never recommend anyone do it.

 

[BradB]

These were crude, largely hand fitted, and were NEVER intended to fire anything but caps, blanks or reduced charge training rounds. There is no way to verify what parts you need or getting them fit short of finding a rifle from the same company. Hang it on the wall and enjoy what it is; a bringback souvenir of wartime service. It's a shame he was not able to get an actual service rifle.