[canuckienns]

Cool handy little carbine. What do you think its heritage is?
Excellent bore. Side slung sling swivels , with evidence of an underside swivel set up. Lowe Berlin. Good Argy cresting.
What say ye?

 

[Cleo45]

Receiver is clearly Argentine Model 1891, Loewe made, and some of the furniture is likely M1891 as well. But the rifle as a whole is a Bubbaed creation. Never seen the like of it. Cool looking, mind you, but clearly a fanciful rebuild by a creative smith

Have you had this checked over by a gunsmith and if so, have you taken this to the range yet? If it checks out safe, I'd be interested to hear how it shoots. Thanks for sharing

 

[geladen]

The M1891 Argentine carbine was a cavalry carbine. Then, after the M1909 carbine became available, the M1891 carbine was modified with two extra barrel bands to be a M1891/31 Engineer Carbine. Your stock shows evidence of having had that modification but the two extra bands (rear extra band with bayonet lug and front side swivel, front extra band with "muzzle ring" type front bayonet lug) are missing. The rear side swivel was relocated from behind the trigger guard. The added front side swivel might have been installed in Argentina but I question that. I suspect it to be an importer modification. There was a group of such carbines imported some years back.

M1891

M1891/31

M1891/31

M1891/31

 

[Uncle Grinch]

Nice looking “Carbine”. You see quite a few variations out on the market that were created by either importers or creative bubbas. None the less, they make great little handy carbines for those not offended by the modifications. Not me, as I have one that is very fun to shoot.

 

[canuckienns]

Thanks for you input guys. I dont think that any bubbas were at work here. The barrelled action appears to be correct, with the Argentine crest still in tact and correct length, as well the the cute little carbine rear sight. the barrel is bright with nice rifling.The stock is another thing. There are two plugged holes behind the trigger guard where the lower sling attachment or saddle band once was. Still a cool little fast handling rifle.

 

[scandiknivars]

The two plugged holes were for the 1891/31 modification to mount a bayonet. I have seen several plugged that way, likely done by the importer because one or both bands were missing. So it could be sold as a 1891 carbine. I've seen several sets of bands not numbers matching for sale on fleabay and else where. You don't indicated whether all the numbers match.
Dan

 

[geladen]

The only question remaining is "Where did the front side swivel come from"?

 

[scandiknivars]

I don't think the front swivel was done in Argentina. I think either the importer or Bubba.
Dan

 

[geladen]

I don't think the front swivel was done in Argentina. I think either the importer or Bubba.
Dan

That seems most likely to me.
Bill

 

[canuckienns]

I think the side front swivel was some ones figment of their imagination. LOL

 

[aaron10]

Yah got a 1891 longrifle stock converted to to engineer carbine stock then converted back to a carbine stock with side rear sling bar left in place , side swivel is off a 1909 long rifle stock.