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Any Advice on where to find Scope Rings for the C. Reichert Wien scope?

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I bought the scope mentioned in the title for my M.95 Sniper but sadly someone stripped the rings off of it before I owned it. Any leads or thoughts on where I could get scope rings for it?
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if yoiu are looking for these rings - try contact 'wyatt jordan' here on the forums - he posted a id and valuation question not long ago



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I bought the scope mentioned in the title for my M.95 Sniper but sadly someone stripped the rings off of it before I owned it. Any leads or thoughts on where I could get scope rings for it?
Would you mind showing your rifle? I'd be keen to see it and possibly being able to tell you a bit more on your rifle. There are some small differences which could also help you in your search.

Addendum: also show the particular scope you have bought. I assume you are aware that the Reichert and Kahles scopes to M.95 rifles had distinctive features, most obvious is the lack of focal adjustment. If your scope has focal adjustment it cannot be used.
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Would you mind showing your rifle? I'd be keen to see it and possibly being able to tell you a bit more on your rifle. There are some small differences which could also help you in your search.

Addendum: also show the particular scope you have bought. I assume you are aware that the Reichert and Kahles scopes to M.95 rifles had distinctive features, most obvious is the lack of focal adjustment. If your scope has focal adjustment it cannot be used.
Here's the scope Pictures



Here's the Rifle Pictures (I just got it and am in the process of inspecting it and potentially cleaning it up a bit)
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Is this the rifle that was sold by RTI? I‘m having a tough time to tell the stamping on the front base right side. This would be important since this would indicate which of the three companies that were authorized did the sniper conversion.

re the scope: you indeed got a correct Austrian scope. I see the plugged holes on the tube. Good start!
Is this the rifle that was sold by RTI? I‘m having a tough time to tell the stamping on the front base right side. This would be important since this would indicate which of the three companies that were authorized did the sniper conversion.

re the scope: you indeed got a correct Austrian scope. I see the plugged holes on the tube. Good start!
Yeah it's the rifle from RTI, I mean I'd never base my collecting hobby on them but this rifle was definitely something that caught my eye. So for the stamping, what kind of stamp would show which of the three company made the mount?
I remember this rifle has a pretty worn AZF assembly number on the right side of the front base, hence it should be AZF assembled (and therefore not Steyr nor Ogris). I cannot recall how many digits the assembly number on the rifle has, since this would indicate whether it is an early scope assembly (which is different from the later ones, regarding the way the rear scope ring is made up) or a later pattern.

What I had not mentioned yet, I've so far hardly ever seen any original scope rings spare. Most fail in properly disassembling those (especially if mounted to a Kahles or Reichert scope where the single piece scope tube has a smaller diameter than front and rear and and therefore requiring a specially constructed rear ring assembly - and many do not recognize the rings are pinned to the scope tube as well), plus the first type AZF rings on Kahles and Reichert scopes anyway cannot be removed without destroying those.

In your case you should best keep your eyes open for one of the reproduction mounts that once were made in Italy. They are correctly stamped and can be used with Kahles and Reichert scopes since the copy is based on the "late AZF pattern" where two half ring shims are soldered to the scope tube on which then the rear ring is slided onto.
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I remember this rifle has a pretty worn AZF assembly number on the right side of the front base, hence it should be AZF assembled (and therefore not Steyr nor Ogris). I cannot recall how many digits the assembly number on the rifle has, since this would indicate whether it is an early scope assembly (which is different from the later ones, regarding the way the rear scope ring is made up) or a later pattern.

What I had not mentioned yet, I've so far hardly ever seen any original scope rings spare. Most fail in properly disassembling those (especially if mounted to a Kahles or Reichert scope where the single piece scope tube has a smaller diameter than front and rear and and therefore requiring a specially constructed rear ring assembly - and many do not recognize the rings are pinned to the scope tube as well), plus the first type AZF rings on Kahles and Reichert scopes anyway cannot be removed without destroying those.

In your case you should best keep your eyes open for one of the reproduction mounts that once were made in Italy. They are correctly stamped and can be used with Kahles and Reichert scopes since the copy is based on the "late AZF pattern" where two half ring shims are soldered to the scope tube on which then the rear ring is slided onto.
Thanks man I appreciate it, any recommendations for places I should start my search at?
I'm afraid the best answer to this I can give is eBay..
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I am actually almost finished making repro ones. Give me a month or two and I might be able to send a set once I get all the kinks out. Once I make 1 set additional ones are easy.

If I had access to an original, it would make my life a lot easier. The straight spring that sits against the scope body is the only thing holding me up
@heim412 do share pictures once you finished your reproduction - I'm looking forward to see what you come up with! Do you make this just for fun, or do you actually have a rifle you need the rings for?

One additional tip, make the claws and the cylinder in the rear blank and oversize, for individual fitting. Especially the front claw has a lot of variations from one to the other one, so for one rifle it might not fit whereas for the other one it is way too loose.
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I am actually almost finished making repro ones. Give me a month or two and I might be able to send a set once I get all the kinks out. Once I make 1 set additional ones are easy.

If I had access to an original, it would make my life a lot easier. The straight spring that sits against the scope body is the only thing holding me up
Sounds good, once you're finished with it do let know that and let me know the price you want for the set.
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@heim412 do share pictures once you finished your reproduction - I'm looking forward to see what you come up with! Do you make this just for fun, or do you actually have a rifle you need the rings for?

One additional tip, make the claws and the cylinder in the rear blank and oversize, for individual fitting. Especially the front claw has a lot of variations from one to the other one, so for one rifle it might not fit whereas for the other one it is way too loose.
Yes no problem at all! I’ll share them on here once I am finished.

And yes, I have been collecting Mannlichers for years and years. They comprise like 80% of my collection. I’ve had a blonde AOI sniper that I’ve been searching 4+ years for a set (not joking). I finally gave up and just figured I’d make some repro ones.

One was for sale recently, and I missed it. These come for sale once every 3-4 years roughly
Is your rifle also one from RTI? Or was that one on GB from a high end gun store? I recall some time back another M.95 sniper rifle with the AOI cartouche in a GB auction that had been sitting there a long time.

Re passion for Mannlicher: I also have this passion and currently house more than 70 M.95 rifles and carbines - they are super interesting, and especially the sniper rifles are unique.
Is your rifle also one from RTI? Or was that one on GB from a high end gun store? I recall some time back another M.95 sniper rifle with the AOI cartouche in a GB auction that had been sitting there a long time.

Re passion for Mannlicher: I also have this passion and currently house more than 70 M.95 rifles and carbines - they are super interesting, and especially the sniper rifles are unique.
That is awesome and shoot me a DM. We have to chat!
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