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My replacement came from Dan’s yesterday and I’m pretty happy with it. It will need some cleaning when I get around to it but it’s an 1893 which I believe is the first year. Brescia manufactured and what I would assume is a low serial number - B78. Maybe someone can give their opinion or expertise on that. I feel like being a first year and low serial this is among the first made? Stock cartouche is clear, marks from someone banging the stock on something as I’ve seen on several Carcanos. The rifling looks strong but it’s dirty and greasy in there so I can’t tell very well yet. Also take a look at the small cartouche/stamp on the left side of the wood below the receiver. It looks like VL or VS in a fancy script inside an oval. I tried doing some searching but came up empty. Anyone know what it is or means?
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I will let Alberto know about this, he shows B being made in 1894, this is why it is important we see these letter and numbers, we can now find ones that gives us new information on production years.
As to the cartouche, it is either an inspectors code or manufacturer not identified.

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I will let Alberto know about this, he shows B being made in 1894, this is why it is important we see these letter and numbers, we can now find ones that gives us new information on production years.

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Glad I can help. I may be a noob but if I can contribute to the knowledge store on these that’s pretty cool. Any idea about the VS or VL script stamp?

Edit: I didn’t notice your comment about the script stamp until after I posted.
 

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He got it, he told me he will update the list when he does the website the next time, he has gotten other ones to update as well, this is why it is important we show these, we can see that things do change as we find them from the recent imports.

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My 1894 (Also from Dan’s) is a B. But it’s a much higher number B7648. Super cool to see such a low two digit number like B78 that Carrguy1 posted! I wonder how many “A”’s Brescia had in 1893? I love that everyone keeps sharing theirs. The collective posting is a wealth of knowledge.

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I had a thought reading this. How often, I have picked up a presumably South American Mauser with no mfg, no country and a serial like D1234. What the heck is this? Now look look a your typical Carcano. It is actually DATED. You dont even need a serial to cross reference. Who made it? The arsenal is stamped right on the barrel. Is the stock original or replaced. The stocks are numbered or overstruck. Rebuilt? Stamped on metal and stock. Or as a general rule.

The questions that remain are so trivial as to never even be asked of the D1234 guns. You are lucky to get a definite country or origin and a decade made.

On the other end of the spectrum are these German guns with every screw serialized. Very cool when they match. No so much if a single digit is out of place. You dont have that collector pain in the rear, kicking you gun down for a miss match screw.

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If we know B78 was made in 1893 that means all 9999 A's were made in 1893
The table below will have to be re-done, Alberto told me this was based upon what they had told but now it is becoming clear it will have to be re-done with the new information we are finding based upon the recent imports.

Moschetto modello 1891 cal. 6,5x52 BRESCIA

annomatricola più bassa riscontratamatricola più alta riscontrata
1893A1223A2188
1894A5429C259
1895C765C6400
1896C7651E614
1897E2804E7306
1898F112F2710
1899F4237F8639
1900G2866G8701
1903H27/
1904H633H3405
1905H4311I5962
1909I6318K4027
1910K6246L7102
1914M1367N2893
1915N8920O8297
1916N429Q239
1917Q2992T7483
1918U305AC4008
1919AC6593AD5176


Moschetto modello 1891 cal. 6,5x52 BRESCIA

annomatricola più bassa riscontratamatricola più alta riscontrata
1893A1B78
1894B4648D4089
1895C?C?
1896C7651E614
1897E2804E7306
1898F112F2710
1899F4237F8639
1900G2866G8701
1903H27/
1904H633H3405
1905H4311I5962
1909I6318K4027
1910K6246L7102
1914M1367N2893
1915N8920O8297
1916N429Q239
1917Q2992T7483
1918U305AC4008
1919AC6593AD5176
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I guess then non-prefixed serial numbers where not used? Looks like numbers started at A1 instead of 1 as in
A1-A9999, not 1-9999. Is moschetto m91 # A1 in a museum in Italy?
The one I got from Dan's is A956 and has the later lever lock type bayonet assembly. The bolt is the type with the new style extractor. I wonder if any of the pre-1912 moschetto in these recent imports still had original bolts with the early style extractor.
I am pleased with what I got from Dan's. It looks to have the much worn original stock with a barely discernable cartouche. The bore is nice and clean with somewhat worn lands. Metal had minor rust issues around front action screw, but came apart eventually and cleaned up easily. Pictures to follow when I can access a working camera..
 

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non-prefixed serial numbers were not used for all the different 1891 models, they all all started with A letter prefixes, A1 to A9999, then B, etc.

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I received one from Dan's as well today. Not a really low serial number but in case this is helpful, I'll attach photos. For the record, never dealt with Dan's before and they were great and Im very happy with the example that showed up. Sorry about the photo quality
 

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It is now highest of C series for 1894 ... made the change in my above post

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I cleaned up a bunch of the Carcano rifles I’ve purchased in the last couple months.
A complete disassembly of body and bolt, then a very light wipe down on wood and metal followed by some oil on the metal.

1894 (B7648) Brescia. No rebuild stamps or cartouche. The original cartouche is there, but very faint. Metal and wood look great for being an antique. The bluing is nicer than most of the others I’ve purchased. Bore rates very good as well. I especially like the color and finish on this wood. I’m really glad I got this rifle. Dan’s was great to deal with.

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Hi,
I'm new to the Carcano world, got into it because my Dad brought one home (WWII) and we never knew. On Dan's website, it doesn't say they are necessarily antique, but would they all be or did I miss those?
Thanks
 

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Hi,
I'm new to the Carcano world, got into it because my Dad brought one home (WWII) and we never knew. On Dan's website, it doesn't say they are necessarily antique, but would they all be or did I miss those?
Thanks
It appears the antique moschettos are sold out :-( I would also like to say that they were great to deal with and there packaging was the best I've seen so far.
 
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