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My original post was yanked. I think. It just disapeired and I have no idea what happened to it, are we subpose to get notification of a post beeing yanked?????????????


Here was the dea in the first post some of you may remeber itl. I purchased a few m39s as modern firearms ( pre 1898), loged them in as moden firearms. Then discovered I had a couple of 1895 receivers, one Tula and one Sestroryetsk. .

So i called, left messages with the ATF to find out how do I log them out as Antiques. posted the questions here and got a few answers while I was wateing for the ATF to call me back.

I finialy got some one to answer the question today. He even gave his name and told me to put in my explantion for the " log out as antique "

He said " inadvertant entry , due to rifle beeing made in 1895 " was the correct way to log out the firearm as a antique. He also said I have to be able to prove it. I asked if I could take a picture of the serial number and receiver tang date and file them like I would a 4473. He agreed that would be the best way, and any documentation I could provide of the rifle would be in my best intrest.

Anyways, I just wanted to foolow up with my findings.
 

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Completely agree and always will. But things changed a littel bit for me. Had my first audit last winter. passed with no problem. But probable lost a good 3 months worth of life over the 24hr worrie period.

And also realize the feds don't have to win the court trial to distroy a person and teach others a lesson. They could do worse by tieing up my money, time, and generaly reaking havoc on mine and my famile life. Plus they aready had one gundealer who thought they WERE NOT Antiques, so starts the here say.


Some times it pays to be a littel more cautious, basicly I see both sides of the coin now-a-days
 

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To be honest, i did get lucky. He was the 4th try, 2 said they wouldn't answer the question, just couldn't answer it, and the third one won't return my call. he was the 4th call and only person who would realy listen to what I had to say
 

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I am sure there are otherways of taking care of the issue, this was the way I felt was best, the rifles came from a wholesaler, not just walkins at a show. However I did get the agents name he said it when he answered the phone and then resaid it when I asked if I was able to use his name in the expalnation after he answered the question.,

The 1898 is a law, if they use that to hold any dealer to the fire, I guarentee that aint all they are looking for. Besides I am takeing pictures of the serial number and receiver date and fileing them just as I would a 4473, and I will get a picture ID if the sale is online and copy down the licence if the sale is at a show, besides this issue would never go to court. I would hand them back my licence in a hart beat
 
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