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This was a summarizing repost to begin with, soi it is now twice reposted...

kriggevaer
Posted - 07/25/2006 : 11:11:50 PM
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I'm working on putting the post back - so bear with me -
Lot of inserting to do.

Here is some of my cartridge collection. I'm working on getting a better camera so I can take decent photos of the headstamps.

The picture below shows wooden bullet practice ammo. The two top boxes are from Karlsborg Ammunitionsfabriken. The brighter red box is from FFV Vanäsverken in Karlsborg. The cartridges on the stripper clip are 1976 Norma production and 1973 Hirtenberger made lösa patroner. The single cartridges grouped at the bottom of the picture are, from left to right: 1961 Karlsborg; 1943 Norrahammars Bruk; 1960 "35"; 1916 Karlsborg; 1942 Svenska Metallverken AB, Västerås; 1941 VPT(Finland). I do not know what ammunition maker used the "35" headstamp. Also, the 1941 VPT could be Finnish production, but I wonder if this could be reused brass, loaded in Sweden.

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The cartridges shown below are the round nosed m/94 6.5x55 cartridges. The upper left corner is from the VPT ammo factory; upper right is an interesting DWM/FN cartridge from Belgium; middle left is a box loaded by Vulkans Tändstickfabrik in Tidaholm; middle right is Karlsborg Ammunitionsfabriken; and the bottom group of cartridges are Finnish 1953 VPT reloaded cartridges. The cartridge cases used are Swedish manufacture with dates of 1927, 1936, 1939, and 1943. The AV8 at the top of the box means "Asevarikko 8" or Arms Depot #8.

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Below we have the m94/prj m41 "prickskytte" cartridges. The two top boxes are from Vulkans Tändstickfabrik; the middle left and bottom box are from FFV Vanäsverken; and the middle right box is from Svenska Metallverken. The middle left box is tracer cartridges, in Swedish these are Spårljusprojektil.

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The picture below is the backside of the ammo boxes above. The red tag on the back essentially says "Save your brass and stripper clips for reuse."

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The two cartridges below are very interesting in that they do not have brass cases. The are not magnetic, so I suspect they are aluminum or zinc cases. One was produced by Svenska Metallverken and the other by Norma. There are no dates on the headstamps.

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I have some more cartridges that I need to identify and catalog and will add those as time allows.

The cartridges below are m/12 Kammarpatroner gallery rounds. These particular ones looked like brass cases, but are steel with a brass coating. The steel cases were called ersättningsmaterial, i.e., substitute material in English. One of the cases was made at Vulkans Tändssticksfabrik and is headstamped '43 with an "E" at the 12 o'clock position, which of course indicates ersättningsmaterial. The other steel case was made in 1942 at Svenska Metallverken, but does not have the "E" stamp.

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Below is the mighty m/32 8x63mm machine gun/anti-tank cartridge. Besides machine guns, the m/40 K98k anti-tank rifle was chambered for this round. This particular cartridge was made at the Karlsborg factory in 1941. The other cartridge is a m/94-m/41 rifle round. I only have one of these cartridges, but if someone has some they would like to get rid of, I'm in the market

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Below is an assortment of special purpose cartridges. I'll be back with full descriptions shortly-

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foudufoot
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Posted - 07/17/2006 : 07:46:05 AM
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Nice collection Kriggevear! Thanks for sharing. I've never seen or shot the round nosed cartridges. What's your experience with them? Dan


Dutchman
Posted - 07/17/2006 : 09:19:07 AM
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I've shot alot of the m/94 cartridges and handload the Hornady 160gr round nose. These are the bullets that made the legend of the 6.5x55. They're very accurate, have superior downrange ballistics, awsum penetration. I like them because they're historically correct
for the m/96 and m/94. If you handload you should at least try a box sometime. Back in 1966 when I had my first m/94 carbine (s/n 113150 mfg 1932) the m/94 cartridge was the only surplus 6.5x55 available in the U.S.

I have all the cartridges shown above except those zinc or aluminum cases. Very strange, never seen them before.

Dutchman



kriggevaer
Posted - 07/17/2006 : 09:34:21 AM
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Thanks foudufoot - The 156-160 grain round nose bullets shoot very well in most m/96 rifles, although the accuracy, I don't think, is quite to the level of the m/41 139 grain bullet. The military roundnose cartridges are getting pretty scarce, and honestly my shooting experience with the roundnose bullet is from Norma factory soft points and Hornady soft point reloads. The 156 grain bullets have a reputation for phenomenal penetration on live targets. If you happen upon any of the old military roundnose cartridges, I would hang on to them and not shoot them. They are worth more as collector cartridges, in my way of thinking. Lapua makes a 155 grain Mega bullet that looks quite interesting for reloading.


kriggevaer
Posted - 07/26/2006 : 09:15:58 AM
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I've just recently come across some more information about the reuse of cartridge cases during World War II. There were standing orders that all brass cases be recovered even during field exercises. I do not know whether the cases were then reloaded or if the brass was re-smelted and new cases produced. I do know that in the years right after World War II, Dansk Ammunitionsfabrik and some of the Swedish ammo makers did reload/remanufacture 6.5x55 cases for military and commercial use.
 
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