Well, I finally got a P38 for what I would consider to be a deal. Mauser Byf 44 with the Bakelite type grips. Appears to be matching, although I don’t have a great deal of knowledge about these and whether or not they have numbers everywhere like Lugers. I’m just very pleased to add it to the collection.
Good looking p38. Made in July 1944. If you take the slide off, there should have matching number on the locking block and should be stamped with an eagle 135
I haven’t put a single round through it yet. I need to have a massive range day (ammo availability permitting) and shoot several that I’ve gotten over the past months and haven’t even tried yet.
You make good points gentlemen and that’s the reasons I haven’t fired it. I’ve had it for 6 months or better now without a round. Granted, I wasn’t 100% sure if it was a “collector level” piece so to say. I think I’ll leave it unfired by me like a few other firearms I’ve ended up with.
Just for anyone’s information, total investment in this example is $640
There is an argument on both sides of shooting vs putting it on oil and stashing it away. A lot of these wartime firearms were worn and carried and most likely shot plenty of time. It's a great-looking pistol and I wouldn't be using it as a carry gun or tossing it around but I also wouldn't be afraid to shoot it at least once. Then pick up a post-war gun to use and abuse if you want a range toy.
As for P-38 references, this is a great book The P-38 by Alexander Krutzek or any of the Buxton volumes.
That looks like a nice byf,640.00 was a great price,Worth 800.00-850.00 IMO if bore is nice and locking block matches.If you want to test fire it,use Winchester white box FMJ.
I have a few P38's and only shoot one of them occasionally. You don't want to shoot hot ammo through this. As for 640, you did really good if it all matches. I take it the number on the front under the barrel matches as well.
Yes, I’ve looked it all over and it’s all matching.
I certainly didn’t get it to shoot frequently or with hot loads. Just wanted one for my collection and jumped on the right price when given the opportunity.
I have a '45 Mauser P-38. After about 20 rounds the aluminum cover on top if the slide came off and hit me in the forehead (metal cracked) When I got home I realized one of the grip screws came out as well. In a way its a fascinating example of the desperate situation late in the war, but it it's not a good shooter.
I am not a gunsmith and am not offering advice, I am just saying this is what I try to do.
I think a very reasonable thing to do with milsurps you buy is to field strip them and if a rifle, take them out of the furniture and inspect the metal and all weak points(if you have an understanding of what to look for), pitting(if it exists), cracks in stocks/grips, barrel condition, springs/firing pins, magazine damage/follower issues and if possible check headspace. Clean the gun up and then take some shots. Not full proof but a heck of a lot better than cranking off shots in the dark concerning the guns condition and potentially your wallets condition if something was avoidable.
I agree with jovialmadness, I'd have to run at least one magazine thru just to know the pistol works. I couldn't own a classic car without driving it around the block once.
I have shot many wartime p38s,some rough pitted examples and missmatches,with never a problem.Also test fired my nice ones, again with no prob.Not telling you what to do,its your pistol and you must decide.A note,ww2 German 9mm ammo,that its made to shoot , is hotter than Winchester white box.If a pistol dosent work its not much really collectable to me.JMO
Beautiful, I’ve got one almost identical to it. Also a byf 44. My grandfather brought it back after the war. Interestingly, he was in the pacific theater. I never got to hear the back story before he passed and always wondered how he came by it.
My great grandfather brought one back from Europe, cut the belt off the soldier he shot which contained the pistol, holster, as well as a knife of some kind. I never saw the knife, it was lost to history. But my great uncle still has the P38. It’s the one gun in this world I’d give anything to have.
As mentioned by several folks above I've fired all my Lugers, P.38s, Mausers, Walthers etc. in my humble collection just to know they function properly. I have one mismatched Luger and one mismatched P.38 which are my shooters but I shoot only my own reloads in both pieces so I know I'm not over pressuring anything. These are not carry pieces, just fun guns to take out to my range and burn a little powder. By the way I have a byf 44 P.38 with a dkk 44 black leather holster much like yours in the photo with black high luster plastic grip panels. This is not my shooter but I have fired it with my reloads to make sure it functions properly.
Unfortunately he is in the hospital as we speak with a poor prognosis. I wouldn’t dare bring up anything like that in this moment. I just hope the P38 goes to an owner that takes care of it if he doesn’t get to come home.
Congrats on yours, very nice looking pistol! I've had my shooter P38 for about a year now. It's a fun one! Won it at a good price. Nickel plated, but I don't care. Found a cold war era holster for it. Really a spot on shooter, I was impressed! A couple pics. I wanted a TT33 at the time, and I also found a good shooter at auction, too. The ole C&R came in handy for a local pick up!
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