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I have recently pulled 200 + 7,62x54R Hungarian 182gr silver yellow tip heavy ball projectiles (http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo007.htm) due to the lot being all click bangs. I would like to reload these projectiles into Winchester and Prvi Partisan brass using Winchester larger rifle primers and Reloder 15 powder.

My question is does anyone have any load recommendations for this particular combination or could I just simply go off of the bullet weight alone compared to other brands of bullets in the same weight class to get a safe powder measurement???

If you are willing to share your load data for your 7,62x54R cartridges with bullet weights between 170 and 200grs I would be much obliged. I am specifically looking for data to compete in 200 yard matches using NRA SR targets. My rifle is a 1943 SAKO M39. The bore is pristine but I have not yet slugged it. The rifle does very well with Prvi Partisan 180gr FMJBT measuring .3105 and averaging 5 inches in 10 shot relays. Bulgarian HB dated 1955 (.3105) does good too at about 6-8 inches. Just wanting to get a little more performance out of it and I know for sure this rifle is very well capable to do so as long as I do my part.

Thank you in advance. :thumbsup:

 

[AmmoSgt In Memoriam]

Each rifle is a law unto themselves , the odds that somebodyelses pet load tht they worked up and tuned to thier rifle will give you similar accuracy is somewhat of a longshot. There are no shortcuts ..

I have two 1955 Faz No 4 Mk2's consecitive serial numbers , both bought unfired, in mummy wrap .. as close to identical as one can ever reasonably expect to find... and yet the max accuracy loads for the two rifles using identical components vary , depending on which recipe we are talkin about, by over a grain in some loads and by as little as 0.3 grains in others ... but thats as close as they get.. 0.3 grains difference to shoot close to each other.. and one rifle is definately more accurate than the other in anything over 150 grain , while the other cleans up with reduced loads behind pulled 123 grain 7.62 x39 bullets ... the biggest difference is the cases and thus the chambers .. I neck size and the lower serial number of the two will not chamber the necksized brass of the higher serial numbered.

use your load books, start with starting loads, and work up in increments to find the best accurate load for your rifle.

 

[milprileb]

Each rifle is a law unto themselves , the odds that somebodyelses pet load tht they worked up and tuned to thier rifle will give you similar accuracy is somewhat of a longshot. There are no shortcuts ..

I have two 1955 Faz No 4 Mk2's consecitive serial numbers , both bought unfired, in mummy wrap .. as close to identical as one can ever reasonably expect to find... and yet the max accuracy loads for the two rifles using identical components vary , depending on which recipe we are talkin about, by over a grain in some loads and by as little as 0.3 grains in others ... but thats as close as they get.. 0.3 grains difference to shoot close to each other.. and one rifle is definately more accurate than the other in anything over 150 grain , while the other cleans up with reduced loads behind pulled 123 grain 7.62 x39 bullets ... the biggest difference is the cases and thus the chambers .. I neck size and the lower serial number of the two will not chamber the necksized brass of the higher serial numbered.

use your load books, start with starting loads, and work up in increments to find the best accurate load for your rifle.

Considering the fact that most believe these last No.4 were the best ever made, being post war and with all improvements to the No.4 in place and considering these two are consecutive numbered in manufacture, This report is remarkable. Thank you for posting it.

 

[Dan Schuttig]

I've never used Reloader 15, but before I switched to using cast bullets almost all the time, my favorite load was 48 grs of IMR4320 behind a .311 180gr jacketed bullet. Ths shot MOA out of my 1942 M39. I've also used the D-166 bullet (200grs IIRC) behind 50 grs IMR4350. I think that this is probably the best bullet for the m-39's, and IIRC is the same profile as the the original "d166" type bullet that the rifle was throated for. They aren't cheap, but if you are shooting matches, well, I guess it's worth it. I don't see why you couldn't use these loads with surplus stuff of the same diamater and weight. I'll check my manuals when I get home to make sure I'm on the money./ Dan

 

[Motor]

I only use Reloader 15 in my AR. I do shoot 174gr Hornady .312" Round Nose bullets from 2, M39's and a 91-30. I use IMR-4831 and IMR 3031. It took some time to get data for the IMR 4831 but thanks to the great people on here I was able to get a start load. (Don't take this literally, you always have to work your loads up in your gun. But I think case capacity not pressure is the limiting factor with the IMR 4831 and 174gr bullet.) I was able to get a 2500fps load that is very accurate. The IMR 3031 load is also in the 2500fps range and is also accurate.

Have you considered using the Hungarian powder? I would venture to say the problem your having is because of the primer. Someone here may know otherwise. I pull Czech LB and use the bullet and powder in a boxer primed case. I equal out the powder charge while I'm at it. This ammo shoots very good and the fresh primer seems to eliminate the "fliers".

I don't have a Neck Only sizer die but short size with my full length die. I guess I'm lucky because my brass fits all 3 of the rifles.

I'll check my manuals for Reloader 15 data.
Motor