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This cartridge was developed by Griffin & Howe around 1925 and was also known as the
350 H&H magnum. G&H built custom hunting rifles using this cartridge for the American
hunters with money.

It was loaded by the Western Cartridge Company and is based by necking down the 375
H&H magnum to use a .357 diameter bullet. Western also stamped the G&H logo on the
headstamp. Photo shows a 300 H&H next to the 350 G&H

The standard load with a 220 gr SP bullet had 3120 fps

The Western loading with a 250 gr SP had 2700 fps

By WW2 this 350 G&H cartridge had just about disappeared DSCN2066.JPG View attachment 3649079
 

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A 220 grain bullet at 3150 fps? Killed at both ends, I suspect.
 

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a few more wildcats

Some interesting wildcats from years ago by O'Neil,Keith and Hopkins starting on the
left: 334 OKH using a necked down 375 H&H case and 200 to 300 gr bullets became
the ground work for the 338 Win and 340 Weatherby.

2nd was the wildcat 350 H&H variation like the 350 G&H cartridge

3rd factory 458 Win for comparison

4th 475 OKH firing a 600 gr bullet P1010028_0024_024.jpg
 

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A 220 grain bullet at 3150 fps? Killed at both ends, I suspect.
Was sighting in my .3006 Model 70 Winchester one time.

My son, said he wanted to shoot it, so I course I let him.

He fired 4 165gr. Remington SP core locks, into about a 3 inch group. Looked like he was having fun.

So I gave him four more cartridges, and slipped in one 220gr.

When he fired that one, a look of surprise, and deep puzzlement crept across his face.

Then the shock wore off and all the pain receptors started sounding the alarm.

"OW!!!" he said.

I apologized, and explained that, it was a much heavier bullet, that I use for bears.

And that round is only leaving the muzzle at 2400 fps!
 

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very heavy 30 caliber bullet

Here are photos of a 330 gr 30 caliber bullet

I understand that it was loaded and used by gun makers to test recoil on rifles P1010045_0041_041.jpg P1010044_0040_040.jpg P1010043_0039_039.jpg
 

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300HH in a Remington 721.
my desire..
last good Remington made!
i got into husky ..300 mag husquvarna.
groups like a target gun..
less inch 200+ yards.
 

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In my bullet collection I have 35 Newton.
nice collection.
 

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Newton cartridges

Few remember the Newton rifles and cartridges, very interesting rifles and cartridges.


my photo 1) 22 Newton 2)256 Newton Western CC 3) 30 newton Western CC 4) 35 Newton

50 33 Newton and 6) 400 Newton

Some were manufactured by Western and Speer (after WW2) P1010026_0022_022.jpg
 

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I’ve got 35 I believe?
 

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That’s one solid looking length, weight...just wowIng at the past..
 

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256 I almost bought one..I liked the weight, and unusual take down using the whole trigger guard..
that idea should have been adopted in other guns..
 

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Morning Gents,

When I received this rifle as a gift from a Safari client, I tried my damnedest to find a bullet/load combination that would shoot in the beautiful pre-WWI J.P. Sauer Sporting rifle. The barrel was marked "30 Govt" and I was told that it had been fired recently with surplus .30-06. The problem was, it was fired alright, but left uncleaned with corrosive ammunition!

I wanted to use the Sauer as a part of my African battery and any collector's value went by way of the ruined bore. So with nothing to lose and based on previous positive experience in his workmanship, I sent the Sauer up to Cliff LaBounty in Washington State. Cliff re-bored the original thin octagonal-to-round barrel and re-chambered it in .338-06. WOW!!!

Without the scope it weighs 6 3/4 lbs. My standard load for plains-game is one of several different 250 grain bullets (Hornady 250 RN, Swift A-Frame 250 grain Spitzer SN, Speer Grand-Slam 250 grain Spitzer SN). I've also experimented with the Swift A-Frame 275 grain Spitzer SN and the old Barnes 300 grain RN bullets. The .338-06 is an extremely versatile and capable cartridge. If you load your own ammunition, it's a particularly nice round for big game hunting. I've shot everything up to and including Cape Buffalo with the .338-06.

JP Sauer 338-06 Pre-WWI Sporter  001-R7.jpg

Several years later, I came across my beautiful Sauer's twin sister! With the second rifle chambered for the 9.3x62mm cartridge, the .338-06 wears the 3x9x32mm Zeiss scope all the time.

JP Sauer 9-3X62mm Pre-WWI Sporter.jpg

Both cartridges are excellent big game options with only slightly less power than a .375 H&H.

Recovered Bullets - 1 Safari Season Metetsi Unit 5.jpg

Here is a collection of bullets recovered from African game animals in a single season back in the old days when we hunted in Matetsi.

Warmest regards,

JPS
 

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Now I’m jealous...really so <>< dan
 
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