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I pick up this 1966 Ishapore 2A1 Enfield Tanker in 7.62X51 NATO today. Yes I know there's no such thing as a Enfield Tanker but once I saw it, I know I had to have it. I don't know who made it, there's no import marking on it. It could be Navy Arms, Gibbs Arms or Bubba. The barrel is 19 15/16 inches long and the bore is shiny and the rifling is strong and sharp. The medal surface has black paint on it which is starting to come off. The bold is in the white. The butt plate is made of aluminum and it's in the white too. The receiver, barrel, rear sight and bolt has matching numbers on them. The muzzle cap and magazine has different numbers on them. The stock looks new on the outside and once I took the stock off I saw it was brand new on the inside. Yes the stock has been cut and glue at the barrel band. I have post some pictures of it below. I only hope who every done the work did a good job on it. I have always like short barrel carbines. This Ishapore 2A1 Enfield Tanker will be a good companion for my Spanish FR-8.

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I would like to know the origin of these guns? The bore is immaculate and the crown is like factory--- someone knows what they are doing.
 

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I'll put the disclamer in before I comment.

I'm not sure, but I think this is the model that people are often comlaining about the front end going down range. Due to poor workmanship on the front end.

Often confused with the other model Gibbs did thousands of. The so called Gibbs "Jungle carbine" that has a differen configuration on the front end.
These carbines have a flash hider attached up front and somehow on the internet the two models became confused.

The short carbine done from a 2A also, with a flash hider never had any issues over the years our club members shot them

It will be interesting if you shoot yours to see if you have any isues with it on down the road.
Onlly problems I heard of was the glued part you mention falls off in time.

There was a post here, not so long ago, that had pictures of the other Gibbs models. That particular model was well liked by some folks. The front end is different and more cleaned up wood wise. They are good shooters. Some will post about one they had that was a stinko, but I never experienced any problems with the models with flash hiders. Fun shooters in .308 IMO

Your particular model is not common in our neck of the woods. In fact, rare.

The Gibbs carbines I saw straight from the dealer, had exc. bores.

Seemed common sense to me. To invest all that work and time etc. in a rifle with a poor bore is not cost productive and dumb.
Thousands were made and sold here in the U.S.

Look the gun over real good to see if has mfgr. codes like Gibbs. I am not sure if yours is a Gibbs, since there may have been several companies that did the exact conversion. Maybe Navy Arms, Golden State etc etc. It should have something on it somewhere in print.
 

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You are right about the glue not holding. If mine come off I know someone who can fix it for me and it will never come off again. I do need to take it to the shooting range to see how this bad boy shoots and hope the front end doesn't come off. LOL.

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I have been over it with a magnifying glass, nothing out ordinary for a Ishapore. I have taken to the range and after a leisurely hour and 40 rnds, inside at 50 yds, its very accurate for that range. Muzzle blast was somewhat excessive, but I believe the 20" barrel is the cause of that. I have seen these referred to as mini 2a's but I don't think that is a factory design. Mystery to me.
 

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Any high power rifle with a 20" barrel or under will always have more muzzle blast and a heavier recoil.

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How's the headspace?
 

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How much did she go for?

I would have had to buy it to...if for no other reason than to just have one in the collection. Nice find.
 

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I have been over it with a magnifying glass, nothing out ordinary for a Ishapore. I have taken to the range and after a leisurely hour and 40 rnds, inside at 50 yds, its very accurate for that range. Muzzle blast was somewhat excessive, but I believe the 20" barrel is the cause of that. I have seen these referred to as mini 2a's but I don't think that is a factory design. Mystery to me.
They are not a factory design. They are conversions for the American market.

I have a link with all the info. on them, but for some reason my program will not transfer it to the posts.

There are at least eight different models that are Enfield conversions for the American market, done in America. Maybe more IIRC.

Not a mystery. Google Enfield fakes by Stratton, it is also listed in there.
 

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Yup, now I know what tanker means. Got mine in a trade for a p-64. Probably worth 250.00 . Still think the trade worked out for both of us. His wife was Polish.
 

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I have one of those and on the second shot it did launch the nosecap and part of the forend down range.
I dug a channel in both pieces, and after fitting them together, filled the channel with epoxy
 

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Mid-age, since you and others already know the rifle's pedigree there is no harm to be done to anyones feelings at this point. For the sake of info, I'll go on and offer a little more background going back about 20 years on these 'tankers' and others. Namely the so-called Gibbs rifles since it came up.
Back then many of us here were then on the Gun and Knife boards followed by its successor Britishguns.net until shortly after the passing of our host, Mark Bitting.

Val Forgett Jr. himself was on the boards with us and he himself gave us the lowdown on what his commercial carbines really were. Mind you, he was defending against backlash for chopping up rifles.
The rifles were said to be rejects, modified because they couldn't pass muster to be sold directly as surplus. Original conditions were that bad or so we were told. They were not modified one at a time but in huge batches at low cost to get them to market at a price which could still profit. They are refinished parts guns made with both old and NOS surplus bits.
Another point of conflict was the fact the rifles were unmarked in regard to who did the work unlike the well marked Golden State/Santa Fe "jungle carbines" or the Jovino like-new builds...which are identifiable by traits and serial numbers.

The Gibbs name had been bought out earlier by Navy Arms and was used strictly as a recognizable trade name by this point. Nothing resembling the old and honorable company which once stood behind it. (Just like Curtis-Mathis televisions and other trusted brand names)

There were a lot of problems back then in regard to QC. They were hit or miss from function to finish. As Val told us on open forum, try them before knocking them so some of us did. I picked up three duds myself from disgruntled owners. I was able to swap parts and do some tweaking to get the rifles to perform. Others did the same. Most were refinished as that would come off staining hands, face, and clothing when used on a warm humid day.
By now, those duds which weren't stripped and sold for parts have probably been fixed along the way. There may be some which were tossed to the side or buried in the back of the safe which may someday resurface. Those are the ones to be wary of.

The rifles have always been notorious for being unmarked. Many suspect nefarious reasons behind that given the overall poor QC of the parts guns and misleading ad hype of the time.

The "tankers" such as yours I am unsure of some of their commercial origins. I don't recall them being a "Gibbs" offering but some were said to be sold under the Navy Arms label. Doesn't matter much at this point anymore. So long as yours works and you're pleased with your nostalgic looking carbine then all is good. As you said, given its history you are free to do whatever you need to/want to in regards to upgrades and improvements and that's a good thing too.

Enjoy it! :)
 

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Thank you for information. At less now I know why my Tanker is unmark. Before I bought this Tanker I did my homework and read all the bad and good reports about them. I went back to the gun store and give this Tanker another look over. Once I saw it was not a junker and the price was right plus I know what I was getting into, I jump on it. As for the front end of the stock, I going to fix it from coming apart before I shoot it. I have read how other owners who had fix theirs and some of them had some good ideas.

Here's some specifications of my Ishapore 2A1 Tanker.

-OVERALL LENGTH: 39 3/8"
-BARREL LENGTH: 19 15/16"
-WEIGHT: 8 LB 14.6 OZ
-MAGAZINE: 10 ROUNDS
-STOCK: WALNUT?
-FOREARM: WALNUT?
-FINISH: CHEAP BLACK PAINT

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