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Ex sniper has markings and plugs in the receiver. It was built as sniper rifle and become ex. It is identical to regular mosin. Rifles made from dragoon parts in 1920-30 period and have Soviet stamps never been designated as dragoons they cannot be Ex.
 

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So the Soviets referred to rifles made in the 1920's as M91/30's despite the fact that the M91/30 design wasn't even adopted until midway through 1930? Interesting.......🤔
It appears he is referring to what they are called now, and applying that to the 1919-1930 period. It does blend with Soviet thinking on other things, aka re-writing history.
 

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Very interesting idea, what do you think made them come up with this idea?

Do you think in 1921, they stared at their creation and said "What should we call this?" Then some random dude just liked the number 30? Seems reasonable to me...
By the year 1930 Soviets finally came with specifications for Mosin rifle, they called it "Schedule B", and the model become 91/30 officially, all rifles made from 1920-30 are early Mosin 91/30 and not ex Dragoons. Then all rifles that had old style rear sight were fitted with new sight .
 

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By the year 1930 Soviets finally came with specifications for Mosin rifle, they called it "Schedule B", and the model become 91/30 officially, all rifles made from 1920-30 are early Mosin 91/30 and not ex Dragoons. Then all rifles that had old style rear sight were fitted with new sight .
Can you cite which page in Yuschenko’s book you find this information?


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It sounds like the Soviets no longer called them Dragoons, they just retroactively called them 91/30 after the official change to that name, and the rear sight update?
Were there differences in design between a 1918 Dragoon and a 1921?
 

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It sounds like the Soviets no longer called them Dragoons, they just retroactively called them 91/30 after the official change to that name, and the rear sight update?
Were there differences in design between a 1918 Dragoon and a 1921?
Maybe but he was saying the 20s dated examples were made from leftover parts etc. and stamped with Soviet markings.
 

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The Soviet army may have stopped using dragoon units after WW1 but they definitely resumed manufacture of the dragoon pattern rifle just after the revolution. That type of rifle obviously had application in newer motorized infantry units. They are only 91/30s if they were upgraded with new sights and other parts during refurbishment. Otherwise, they are a dragoon pattern M/91 if they retain their original sights, solid bands, and stock. I can’t see it any other way. You can’t train soldiers with a mixed group of rifles sighted in arshins and meters with entirely different settings. That alone tells me there’s no way the Soviets considered the two rifles one in the same.
 

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