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Some early Enfields. I can't really find any flaws on these guns.

If anyone else has got QP rifles jump on board an post some pics.
 

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Mate great rifles. These are some of the best rifles I have seen. It is good to see a true collector share their passion on line. keep up the good work. I look forward to some new surprises from Demo the Enfield God.
 

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Lovely rifles and many thanks for posting.

Apologies if this has been covered many times before, but excuse a 'Pom' for asking what the story is behind the Qld Police rifles? Did each territory hold SMLEs in an armoury? Were they intended for use against criminals or due to tensions around WW1? Judging by the condition, they must have remained in storage for most of their time.

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Awe inspiring rifles! Wish more like 'em ended up on this side of the world.
 

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The Queensland Police are the single police force for the whole of the state of Queensland; headquarters is at Brisbane in the far south of the state, with smaller stations in most towns - number of officers at each station reflecting the size of the local population. The rifles would have been issued and stored at each local station, in readiness against many eventualities. In addition to use against criminals, these could have included such things as civil unrest, strikes, and dealing with rogue stock animals. I don't think that the WW1 tensions figured much when they were bought.

The town where I grew up was 50 km from Mackay, and had one police officer at the local station. This station had an SMLE Mk 1* on issue from 1914 until the 1980's. By pure fluke, I bought this rifle after it was surplused in the late 1980's.
 

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The Queensland Police are the single police force for the whole of the state of Queensland; headquarters is at Brisbane in the far south of the state, with smaller stations in most towns - number of officers at each station reflecting the size of the local population. The rifles would have been issued and stored at each local station, in readiness against many eventualities. In addition to use against criminals, these could have included such things as civil unrest, strikes, and dealing with rogue stock animals. I don't think that the WW1 tensions figured much when they were bought.

The town where I grew up was 50 km from Mackay, and had one police officer at the local station. This station had an SMLE Mk 1* on issue from 1914 until the 1980's. By pure fluke, I bought this rifle after it was surplused in the late 1980's.
Good one. Take some pictures for us.
 

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Q^P and Q^G issues

The State of Queensland and the Queensland Police Force were issued rifles from its very beginnings in the 1860s. Various Muzzle loaders, and eventually Snider carbines (.577) were issued to Stations for general use ( Stock control, Bushranger control, Aboriginal Control).
IN the 1890s, rising Industrial action by Shearers led to the Defence force being employed "in assistance to the Police" armed with Martini-Henry rifles and Gatling and Nordentfeldt guns ( Shearers Strike, 1891 and subsequent Strikes in the 1890s.) After the Boer War, it was felt that the increasing tide of Socialist unrest required a better armed Police Force for Public Tumults, and so Rifles SMLE Mark I were ordered from the "Crown Agents" in the UK, who sourced them from BSA,& LSA, the approved "makers" for Empire sales.
These rifles arrived just before the Strikes of 1912 ( Great Tramways strike, in Brisbane).
The rifles were used by Police right thru WW I, the Depression and after WW II, still often in their original "Mark I" condition, until finally sold off. Some were never actually taken out of their cases at all....

Bayonets for the Rifles are the M1907 Hooked Quillon, some Chromed ( Police Ceremonial Unit/ Mounted Police Troop)..They command a very high price here in Aus.

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In regards to the QP rifles they were actually still at some stations into the early 80's. I am aware that there were 30 mint rifles with their bayonets until 8 year ago in the armoury. When the armourer was caught salvaging bits from rifles to be destroyed they squashed the lot as well as many other rare pistols ect. Imagine how much they could have earned if sold to collectors.
 

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The State of Queensland and the Queensland Police Force were issued rifles from its very beginnings in the 1860s. Various Muzzle loaders, and eventually Snider carbines (.577) were issued to Stations for general use ( Stock control, Bushranger control, Aboriginal Control).
IN the 1890s, rising Industrial action by Shearers led to the Defence force being employed "in assistance to the Police" armed with Martini-Henry rifles and Gatling and Nordentfeldt guns ( Shearers Strike, 1891 and subsequent Strikes in the 1890s.) After the Boer War, it was felt that the increasing tide of Socialist unrest required a better armed Police Force for Public Tumults, and so Rifles SMLE Mark I were ordered from the "Crown Agents" in the UK, who sourced them from BSA,& LSA, the approved "makers" for Empire sales.
These rifles arrived just before the Strikes of 1912 ( Great Tramways strike, in Brisbane).
The rifles were used by Police right thru WW I, the Depression and after WW II, still often in their original "Mark I" condition, until finally sold off. Some were never actually taken out of their cases at all....

Bayonets for the Rifles are the M1907 Hooked Quillon, some Chromed ( Police Ceremonial Unit/ Mounted Police Troop)..They command a very high price here in Aus.

Regards,
Doc AV
AV ballistics.
Thats very interesting Doc. Thanks for posting. You mentioned only the MkI model but infact there were approximately 300 MkI's and 600 MkIII's. Issued with the rifle's were the 1903 pattern bayonet for the MkI's and the 1907 pattern hooked quillion for the MkIII's
 
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